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TRANSCRIPT of Episode 108: "Matchmaker: 1 vs 5 Stars"

Review That Review with Chelsey Donn & Trey Gerrald
Episode 108: "Matchmaker: 1 vs 5 Stars"


*Please pardon any and all spelling errors!

[00:00:00] THEME SONG: Everybody's got an opinion.

Every Californian and Virginian.

It's so hard to tell who to trust and who to ignore.

Someone's gotta settle the score.

Trey and Chelsey will help you choose!

Whose views win, which ones lose.

Online haters are comin' for you!

Baby, it's time to Review That Review!

[00:00:30] CHELSEY DONN: Hello,

[00:00:32] TREY GERRALD: Oh, hello and welcome once again to Review That Review. We are the podcast that is dedicated to reviewing

[00:00:41] CHELSEY DONN: reviews,

[00:00:44] TREY GERRALD: that is Chelsey Donn,

[00:00:45] CHELSEY DONN: and that is Trey, Gerrald.

[00:00:48] TREY GERRALD: and together we are.

[00:00:50] VOICEOVER: The Review Queens,

[00:00:54] CHELSEY DONN: Trey. Would you like to.

[00:00:56] VOICEOVER: Lodge, A, Complaint.

[00:00:57] TREY GERRALD: Absolutely and 'I today really need to Lodge A Complaint against puddles.

[00:01:02] CHELSEY DONN: Puddles.

[00:01:03] TREY GERRALD: What good are puddles like actually, what are puddles good for? Nothing.

[00:01:09] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah.

[00:01:09] TREY GERRALD: You step in them, your tire in your car, shoots it onto some poor person waiting for the bus. Sorry for some sad individual, not A'. Poor person waiting for the

[00:01:19] CHELSEY DONN: Like poor,

[00:01:20] TREY GERRALD: Poor choice of words. A', poor individual who

[00:01:23] CHELSEY DONN: poor, unfortunate soul.

[00:01:25] TREY GERRALD: Yes, not A'. Poor person waiting for the bus because they don't have money. Puddles are awful and you know 'I often with little puppies in our house, we will have little puddles here and there because Hunter really loves to bite ice cubes.

And once again, it's my fault cuz 'I love to drop ice cubes.

[00:01:42] CHELSEY DONN: 'I thought you were talking about little piddles. But 'I. Guess that's different from A' puddle. A' Piddle and A' puddle. Or even though A' Piddle of puddle. A' Puddle of piddle.

[00:01:52] TREY GERRALD: yeah, not A' piddle. Piddles are gross. Puddles are annoying, and our little ice cubes, you know, 'I will leave on the floor and then there will be A' puddle later because it melts anyway. 'I just hate puddles. I've never like, I've never been A' person that wants to go like, jump around in puddles, Donn, don't know why.

That's like A' little child trope and cartoons and

[00:02:12] CHELSEY DONN: say there's like this romanticized thing around puddles, like A' little kid in rain boots, yellow rain boots.

[00:02:19] TREY GERRALD: of course.

[00:02:20] CHELSEY DONN: into A' puddle with A', nice raincoat, fully protected from the rain and just gleefully like puddles, you know? But that is so not, that's uh, what false advertising for the puddles.

[00:02:33] TREY GERRALD: Yeah, Donn don't want A'. 'I don't want to be in the rain. B, if I'm in A', like A', slicker, that's because 'I don't have an umbrella, which is just terrible. And no 'I don't want any of it. Well, that's my Complaint. Are you ready to go hand to hand? ChelseyBD.

[00:02:47] CHELSEY DONN: 'I stretched before 'I started. I'm ready to go.

[00:02:50] TREY GERRALD: Here we go. Why don't you and 'I go ahead and.

[00:02:54] VOICEOVER: Assess, That, Kvetch.

[00:02:56] TREY GERRALD: Queens it is yet again, another time to go on A' versus Journey. Today, ChelseyBD and 'I are going to both be covering A' one star and A' five star review on the same topic. And aren't you lucky listeners? To today's topic is the Los Angeles matchmaking service, the real matchmaker.

[00:03:21] CHELSEY DONN: That's right. Will the real matchmaker please step up? That's right. Ugh, same page. All right. For this versus episode Trey, you have selected the five star and 'I have selected the one star. So to determine who reads first, we gotta flip that quota and 'I believe it's my turn. Diva, right? All right, so I'm gonna go with heads. Woo and 'I want A' chicken dinner.

[00:03:49] TREY GERRALD: Wait, this is our third episode in A' Row, where the five star is gonna be on the after show.

[00:03:54] CHELSEY DONN: Well, you know, sometimes that's just the way the tides turn my friend.

[00:03:59] TREY GERRALD: So let me tell you A' little bit about the real Matchmaker 'I. At the time of this recording, the Real Matchmaker has 48 reviews on Yelp, and their average score is four and A' half out of five. So according to the website, 'I did A', lot of scouring. So the Real Matchmaker was actually A' established as A' company in 2010, and they summarize their work as matchmaker slash attraction coach slash dating scouts.

Beautiful. All of those

[00:04:33] CHELSEY DONN: the above. Sound good. 'I

[00:04:34] TREY GERRALD: Yes. Right. So here we go. According to the, from the business section on Yelp, 'I pulled all of these quotes. Imagine A' personal dating assistant doing all of the heavy lifting for you.

[00:04:49] CHELSEY DONN: Sounds

[00:04:50] TREY GERRALD: our personal introductions method, we have three effective ways to help you. Meet someone special.

We match. We mingle with you and we recruit on your behalf. 'I am committed to keeping my eyes peeled wherever 'I go with their 90 days to love course, their creative mingling strategies. And clever flirting techniques,

[00:05:21] CHELSEY DONN: So clever.

[00:05:22] TREY GERRALD: have worked effectively to attract high quality partners. So no matter what experience you've had before, by working with someone who truly cares, could make all the difference.

[00:05:36] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah, they got some typos in there. 'I saw that as well. 'I saw that as well when 'I was looking at the Yelp page.

[00:05:41] TREY GERRALD: Okay. Yes. Okay. So, all right. And then 'I also, this is not on the out page, but on their actual website, they have A' new service online dating takeover, which purports to get your quote unquote profile plus pictures, swipe right ready, working with the algorithm and nailing down messages that get responses.

So all this sounds so good. So with all this background in mind, why don't we go ahead and jump deep into the cool, refreshing waters of the real matchmaker, but no puddles.

[00:06:18] CHELSEY DONN: No puddles.

[00:06:21] VOICEOVER: Review, That, Review.

[00:06:26] CHELSEY DONN: All right. 'I am the one star review today, so 'I will be bringing the negative aspect of this one in five to the table. My review is written by Barry S, so here we go. Jessie Kay couldn't match up A' pair of socks coming out of the dryer. It all started with A' bait and switch 'I. And it kept going downhill from there.

She presented me with A' Pretty girl At our first meeting that 'I never got to meet.

[00:06:58] TREY GERRALD: mm-hmm.

[00:06:59] CHELSEY DONN: 'I spent thousands of dollars and the awful matches just kept on coming. There was A' girl with no job. A' Gold, Digger A'. Two-faced, liar, A' live at home, mama's girl. You name it, Jessie matches you up with them. She puts out internet ads, talks with the trash that comes rolling in and sets you up with it when you complain.

She blames it on the city, you and everything else she can think of, excluding her inability to do her job or do what she promised. I've had better luck on OkCupid and P o f. So save your money and hope. Don't give Jessie Kay A' dime. You'll meet no one A' value, integrity, or kindness. And save the thousands you're gonna spend on $300 dinners.

Her dates will choose the restaurants for Jessie Kay is A', sham, and A' fraud. If you don't believe me, Give her A' call and allow her to woo you into A' dating Nightmare.

[00:08:27] TREY GERRALD: Whoa. 'I have A'. Tremendous amount of notes based on what Barry is saying. Okay, so 'I recognize 'I just was like swimming in seas of five stars. But 'I have no skin in this game. 'I don't know what 'I. Think about matchmaking. 'I kind.

[00:08:42] CHELSEY DONN: married at how? How old?

[00:08:44] TREY GERRALD: 'I was 29 when we got married, but 'I was 24 when we met.

[00:08:48] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah, so.

[00:08:50] TREY GERRALD: But 'I just sort of come from A' thought of like, sure, like 'I, believe A' Matchmaker could find love for people, but it also is like A' gamble and A' risk.

Like that's what 'I think, but

[00:09:02] CHELSEY DONN: going in. You feel like as the consumer, you know, it's A' gamble and A' risk.

[00:09:07] TREY GERRALD: 'I mean? 'I. Feel like there is some kids met. There is some like serendipitous events like or even Bacher. It's sort of magical to meet A' person you're gonna be with the rest of your life or until you choose to not be. But Okay. So I'm sort of coming into this sort of like 'I, don't think I'm on the side of matchmakers.

'I will present the five star, but 'I think that's not presenting. A'. Binance here. Yeah. I'm just hearing from Barry. Barry seems very unlikable Barry is coming across. In my opinion, they say that this matchmaker will never be able to find you. Anyone that's kind and 'I think there's nothing kind. In Barry's voice, Barry says that the women that were presented to him are trash.

Okay. That seems. Horrible. You're literally calling humans trash. You refer to someone as A' little mommy's girl and you like point out that someone doesn't have A' job. Like, okay, maybe that's not A' match. And maybe for you, ideally, and maybe you're paying A' service because you wanna find quote unquote quality people, 'I understand the frustration.

'I think the point I'm resonating with from Barry is that they have spent A' lot of money. They feel like they've been duped and they feel like they've had multiple examples where they were not met with quality people.

[00:10:23] CHELSEY DONN: Right.

[00:10:24] TREY GERRALD: Okay? You can say that without calling people Trash. 'I don't know, but, but 'I want to break it down more, but 'I am just off the top first.

Listen, 'I, think Barry's an asshole.

[00:10:36] CHELSEY DONN: 'I got A'. Very similar impression when 'I first read this review as well, which is one of the main reasons that 'I did bring it in. 'I think that Barry does sort of seem like A' jerk. I'm just pulling up A' picture for Patreon or anyone watching of Barry. He has A', little bit of A' douche face. Not to be like

[00:10:56] TREY GERRALD: 'I imagined this in my mind, hard to

[00:11:00] CHELSEY DONN: Hard to please. So,

[00:11:01] TREY GERRALD: A'. Really interesting thing because if you are in the business of pleasing clients, what do you do when you have someone who is A' real jerk, or someone who is really tough? Like you're trying to not find duds. What if you happen to have A' dud as A' client?

Because maybe Barry is the problem. It's not the candidates.

[00:11:22] CHELSEY DONN: Well, if you're Patty Stenger, then you kick him out of the Millionaire Match Club,

[00:11:26] TREY GERRALD: All right, well there you

[00:11:27] CHELSEY DONN: whatever it is.

[00:11:28] TREY GERRALD: 'I. Do love off the top. 'I. 'I. Think it's so hilarious. 'I. Just think the first sentence, could it match A' pair of socks in the dryer? That is so funny.

[00:11:37] CHELSEY DONN: it

[00:11:37] TREY GERRALD: it was downhill from there.

[00:11:39] CHELSEY DONN: exactly. You know, that's what 'I was. Think 'I was most disappointed with this review

[00:11:43] TREY GERRALD: 'I Am disappointed. Yes,

[00:11:44] CHELSEY DONN: 'I read 'I. Strong start. We got humor like we're coming for it. And then from there we just like Donn don't know.

It was like 'I. Think that there are points here. 'I really do 'I believe that like there is A' possibility that Jesse Kay 'I. Really like sells you in the pitch meeting and is like showing you photos of girls that she knows that you're gonna be attracted to 'I. Do believe maybe we're like selling something at the top that we're not delivering.

'I can definitely see that someone might be disheartened or disappointed by this. That's why if 'I was gonna go to A' Matchmaker, 'I feel like 'I wouldn't want to go to someone on Yelp. I'd wanna find like A' A' Jewish woman from like A' Shtetl. That's gonna set me up. You know, 'I, imagine it's really hard to upkeep that, right?

Like the more clients you have coming in, then the more people you have to match, then the more promises you have to keep and, and the more chances you're gonna end up with A' client. That's difficult.

[00:12:47] TREY GERRALD: Yeah. 'I. It does seem like it is A' profession of diminishing returns because presumably 'I think this is part of the point where I'm sort of like 'I don't know there's magic and like meeting people that 'I. How do you guarantee that you can promise results? Like that seems A' little intangible to me.

[00:13:04] CHELSEY DONN: right,

[00:13:04] TREY GERRALD: But what if you have these excellent candidates and they do happen to match, well, then you have to keep searching for more Excellent can. It's like, it just seems very hard to guarantee.

[00:13:16] CHELSEY DONN: Right, exactly. And 'I don't really know that Jesse Kay is guaranteeing 'I. Think that what Jesse Kay, at least in the like blurbs that we read, seems like Jesse's trying to teach you how to be more attractive. How do, how you to like open up your heart chakra and put A' little bit of the onus on the individual and then if you wanna pay to have matches, you can.

[00:13:39] TREY GERRALD: Right. Well, the internet ads thing, 'I. Think I've just gone on A' rollercoaster quietly over here on my side cuz 'I 'I was thinking what? Like you're making like Facebook ads about Barry and then 'I was like, oh, it's probably like you're running like Yeah, it, if you're looking for love, like it's an internet ad.

[00:13:57] CHELSEY DONN: It's not for Barry.

[00:13:58] TREY GERRALD: Well, how else are you gonna scout? People like 'I, 'I don't think it's negative to run internet ads. And if that seems skeezy to you, then you need to find A' different service that has A' larger database for whatever reason,

[00:14:11] CHELSEY DONN: 'I definitely think that the message is muddied because we just don't really like Barry. At the end of the day, what's interesting is that 18 people did find this useful. Nine people found it funny, and five people found it. Cool. So people are interacting with this review 'I,

[00:14:29] TREY GERRALD: Well, 'I do think that there are points like you're pointing to here. It is like, okay, let me have my antenna raised. Like is it A'? Little bait and switchy.

[00:14:37] CHELSEY DONN: Right,

[00:14:37] TREY GERRALD: But then 'I just,

[00:14:39] CHELSEY DONN: but 'I think what? What like bodes well almost for Jesse Kay is that like 'I totally buy that. Barry could be A' very difficult person to please 'I.

[00:14:51] TREY GERRALD: 'I mean he presented the review at how he

[00:14:53] CHELSEY DONN: They didn't give us anything that was positive in this review for us to be able to believe that they have more to discuss than negativity.

[00:15:04] TREY GERRALD: Yeah. A' real positive, like maybe the only positive 'I can sort of pull from this is 'I do appreciate at the end. It's like, if you don't believe me, 'I. Call and allow yourself to be manipulated. Like there was something like it, it was like finally he was letting off the gas A' little bit to be like, don't take my word for it.

But it was still unpleasant. It just really co and, okay. Can we, can we pull out from this, like, can 'I sort of remove my, maybe Barry is so. Coming across so upset and angry and like gross to me because they're so disappointed. But, but then 'I can't, you can't call women trash. Like in what world do you think that, like what, like, are you, like it just is so unattractive.

Like you can't do that. Like how do people not 'I, how do non-performance based human beings not comprehend that at all levels? You're being assessed and looked at, like, it's so baffling to me that like you are leaving A' review for A' love connection service, and you are being so gross. Like, like 'I it, it,

[00:16:13] CHELSEY DONN: But there's just not that level of self-awareness. That's it.

[00:16:16] TREY GERRALD: Well, you're never gonna find, you're never gonna find it, Barry, because you are incomplete on your own. You, you gotta work on yourself, brother. Like, get it together. I'm angry. I'm mad. And 'I don't even, I'm not 'I. Don't even

[00:16:29] CHELSEY DONN: 'I. Completely agree. 'I think that really what you're responding to is the trash and the no job. The gold digger. The two-faced liar. The live at home mama's girl. Like if Barry weren't Barry and Barry were looking at Barry, what would be the title that Barry would give Barry? That's A'. Lot of Barry's

[00:16:46] TREY GERRALD: That's interesting. Well, doesn't Barry also point out like they're comparing this to being inferior to P O F, which took me A' minute, plenty

[00:16:55] CHELSEY DONN: of fish.

[00:16:56] TREY GERRALD: and the other one, did they

[00:16:57] CHELSEY DONN: OkCupid,

[00:16:59] TREY GERRALD: Right. So it's like, okay, so now we know that Barry has failed at other opportunities. So I'm seeing A' pattern,

[00:17:05] CHELSEY DONN: that's true.

[00:17:06] TREY GERRALD: but also back to this theme about love is slippery.

It's hard, like even Barry aside, there will be someone for Barry, even with Barry being how Barry is, right? So it's like it just takes time. Why are you being so angry? 'I mean 'I. Guess 'I. Understand cuz you're paying for A' service so you are expecting A' result. But if the results can be slippery, you can't go on one date and meet your wife.

Like maybe you could, but like that's A' crazy reality. Barry is saying in black and white on this review that this matchmaking service will not find people of value, integrity, or

[00:17:44] CHELSEY DONN: Which is messed up.

[00:17:45] TREY GERRALD: You are out of your mind like 'I. Wanna know if you're gonna give me $300 as the money you're throwing down? Tell me how many effing dates you went on.

Tell me how many women you met. Tell me how many people you passed on. Like 'I am so mad at Barry. Oh, why am 'I 'I am so upset? 'I? Don't

[00:18:00] CHELSEY DONN: 'I, 'I, get it, you know, in your anger, 'I feel like I'm sort of like hopping on the bandwagon with you and I'm thinking like, is Barry really A' misogynist? And is it that Jesse Kay is A' woman, that he is sort of looping her in with his perception of women? Falling into one of these categories that he's pointed out, like the gold digger, the two-face liar, the live at home.

Like, is he seeing Jesse as like A' gold digger schemer? Because that's the only way he's Yeah. Who's, that's the only way that he's able to categorize women 'I mean. Maybe 'I 'I. Don't know that there are many male matchmakers out there, but 'I wonder if Barry would, you know, respond better to A' male matchmaker.

Maybe Barry really has A' problem taking any kind of authority or like accepting women as being A' value, which is really sad.

[00:18:57] TREY GERRALD: that's interesting. It's an interesting parallel.

[00:19:00] CHELSEY DONN: Right 'I. Think we're both sufficiently annoyed. Spelling and grammar is solid. 'I. Think we can go ahead and move forward with the crowning? What do you think

[00:19:09] TREY GERRALD: Yeah, let's just, let's crown and then we

[00:19:10] CHELSEY DONN: we can discuss? Yes,

[00:19:13] TREY GERRALD: So ChelseyBD and 'I each have our own set of zero to five crown cards. In an effort to be fair and not influenced by one another, we will simultaneously reveal our rating.

[00:19:24] VOICEOVER: The Queens are Tabulating

tow school.

[00:19:31] CHELSEY DONN: Oh, Queens are unanimous. One and A' Half Crowns one and A' half crowns straight. You go first. Why? One and A' half crowns for Barry ass.

[00:19:38] TREY GERRALD: 'I think it's just sort of reiterating my question mark about matchmaking services. It's sort of like maybe they can facilitate, maybe they can coach, maybe they can 'I. You know, present A' roster of possibilities to you. But like at the end of the day, like you have to sort of, there has to be magic and 'I.

Don't know if someone can create that other than like the self-work you've done in yourself and like the magic of like stumbling upon people at the right time and all of that stuff. The warning flags are there, but my, the ultimate impact for me is like 'I, hope 'I don't get matched with Barry. God bless Barry.

[00:20:12] CHELSEY DONN: bless Barry's matches.

[00:20:14] TREY GERRALD: The humor 'I, mean 'I sort of said A' Half Crown because it started really strong, but then 'I was ultimately disappointed. So like 'I don't think there's much there. 'I. Think it's equally truthful and shady. And ultimately I'm just upset. Why did you say one and A' half

[00:20:27] CHELSEY DONN: Similar 'I went with just like the amusement, especially at the top, the humor and then the antenna, right? A', little bit of my antenna is up. Like maybe 'I shouldn't get so excited in that. First meeting with Jesse Kay. Just do A' little bit more research. So for that reason one and A' Half Crowns. But as we said, 'I don't really believe that Barry S is A' reliable narrator.

And that to me is the most important aspect of A' review. So 'I couldn't give more than one and A' half crowns for Barry.

[00:20:58] TREY GERRALD: Yeah, 'I hear that. It really is interesting to me.

[00:21:01] VOICEOVER: There is A' reply.

[00:21:04] CHELSEY DONN: There's A' reply. Okay, this reply is from Jessie Kay herself. Here we go.

[00:21:15] TREY GERRALD: Oh, I'm scared.

[00:21:16] CHELSEY DONN: In the 19 years I've been A' Matchmaker, 'I, I've learned that single people struggle with dating in different ways. While I've helped many people through those struggles, there are some who just don't wish to look at how they create their own unhappiness. 'I sent Barry out on dates with over 10 attractive women. He approved first, yet he managed to find fault with most of them. Dating is A' numbers. Game and chemistry is A'. Funny thing that most of us can't quite put our finger

[00:21:53] TREY GERRALD: Oh my God.

[00:21:54] CHELSEY DONN: 'I was looking for love for Barry and it is always harder when looking for the one 'I.

Really care for Barry and 'I. Wish him all the love and success in the world. 'I sincerely, hope he finds what he's looking for out there.

[00:22:14] TREY GERRALD: Wait, just off the top. 'I am so obsessed that Jesse does not address Barry at. Oh, this is not Dear Barry. This is not, I'm sorry you felt this way. There is no apology. It is literally to the people that are perusing these reviews. 'I just want you to hear some fucking statistics. Motherfucker and 'I want you to know Barry approved all these fucking trash ass women and found fault with them, and it's literally everything.

We were just. Fucking talking about there is magic here that you cannot account for. And wait. Now I'm even more obsessed with Jesse because Jesse says 'I was looking for love for Barry 'I was not looking for the one that's like setting the expectation. That's being very crystal clear. It's like I'm obsessed with Jesse.

Oh my

[00:23:02] CHELSEY DONN: 'I know.

[00:23:02] TREY GERRALD: won me over

[00:23:04] CHELSEY DONN: 'I like Jesse's reply, A' lot 'I really like the tenor. They didn't punch down on Barry.

[00:23:10] TREY GERRALD: at all.

[00:23:11] CHELSEY DONN: information. But even in the end, like, you know, 'I, like how they didn't refer to them

[00:23:16] TREY GERRALD: No, they ignored it.

[00:23:18] CHELSEY DONN: said, 'I really care for Barry 'I. Wish you know all the love and success in the world.

'I hope he finds what he's looking for out there. Like this is what 'I did. It's so queenly, it was. It was written five days after the review was written, so Jessie Kay got to it within A' week. Yeah. She took an exhale, but she addressed it right away.

[00:23:38] TREY GERRALD: is like 'I. The most beautiful reply like it is so expertly 'I, am so obsessed that it's just, to me, it's not to bury

[00:23:50] CHELSEY DONN: feels like A' therapy response

[00:23:53] TREY GERRALD: mean, it's like this makes this one star so valuable.

[00:23:58] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah, like really flipped it on its head. 'I mean we talk about this every time we have A' reply, but it makes all the difference because you can immediately tell what A' business owner is like by the tenor of their reply.

[00:24:13] TREY GERRALD: Okay, but wait devil's advocate, since we know that Barry is the devil. Now, Barry does say that Jesse is very skilled at A' bait and switch, and allow yourself to be wooed because in breaking down this reply, it is very expertly salesman because in that first sentence,

[00:24:35] CHELSEY DONN: yeah,

[00:24:35] TREY GERRALD: Jesse positions himself back in A' Place of power with expertise.

So it's like approaching you as the expert, which we like. It makes us

[00:24:45] CHELSEY DONN: We did like, it did make me feel comfortable,

[00:24:48] TREY GERRALD: Still comparing the two 'I would much rather be in the energy of Jesse than be in the energy of Barry. It's just such A' perfect response that literally 'I feel like it would be A' loss to Jesse's company if Barry deleted the review because the reply is so kickass.

[00:25:05] CHELSEY DONN: And also because like obviously we both crowned Berry A' one and A' Half Crowns. Like even if the bait and switch message is true, it's not getting across 'I. Because of everything else that was in that review. That is the problem with not compliment sandwiching and not saying anything positive is that we don't know how to believe you what to believe, because we do know that calling girls trash.

[00:25:31] TREY GERRALD: You create A' reality. Yeah.

[00:25:33] CHELSEY DONN: I'm not gonna get on board with you

[00:25:36] TREY GERRALD: Mm-hmm.

[00:25:37] CHELSEY DONN: for saying that.

[00:25:38] TREY GERRALD: Mm-hmm.

[00:25:39] CHELSEY DONN: So because of that, even if the bait and switch message was accurate, I'm having A' hard time trusting it. Maybe I'm falling under the spell of Jesse Kay. But 'I do like the reply

[00:25:53] TREY GERRALD: 'I like it too. 'I think it's really skillful and honestly it is. Like many of the points we talked about, like that doesn't feel bait and switchy to me. If Jesse is pointing out, look, 'I have experience in this, and 'I recognize like people 'I. Have lots of hangups in the world of dating and so 'I can sort of hold up A' mirror 'I really get A' sense that like Donn don't know.

I'm buying it. I'm

[00:26:18] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah, I'm buying A' two. I'm buying what Jesse K is selling and also, even though it's sort of outside of the scope of the review, 'I think it can't help but color the reviews. Jesse K does have A' 4.5 overall, you know, if we were reading this interaction and Jesse had A' three, or you know, somewhere in the threes, 'I, think 'I might be A'.

Little bit more like Jesse Kay is like. Very skilled at manipulating or whatever, but 'I don't feel like that's the case when 'I mean. You're, we're gonna talk about your five star review in the after show, but 'I wasn't spending any time there. So 'I don't really have that reflection. But 'I can say that if 'I went to this page and 'I saw there was A' 4.5 overall, and there was A' reply, 'I would feel A'.

Little bit better about moving forward.

[00:27:06] TREY GERRALD: Wait, can we crown ChelseyBD?

[00:27:08] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah. I'm ready. Are you ready?

[00:27:10] TREY GERRALD: let's do it.

[00:27:10] CHELSEY DONN: Okay.

[00:27:11] VOICEOVER: The Queens are Tabulating 'I.

Total Score.

[00:27:18] CHELSEY DONN: Interesting. Okay, so I'm holding up four crowns. Trey is holding up five crowns. Trey, you go first. Why did you make Jesse k. A'? Review. Queen.

[00:27:27] TREY GERRALD: Well, 'I actually wanted to do four and A' half, but 'I thought you would do five and 'I didn't want to look gross. But 'I don't know what else 'I really would want Jessie to do because 'I really appreciate the Levelheadedness. 'I think it's so beautiful to just like, not even

[00:27:43] CHELSEY DONN: Not even address him.

[00:27:44] TREY GERRALD: Barry and 'I also really value the statistics.

It, it, it made me feel more back on, uh, Jesse's side. That's the point of

[00:27:54] CHELSEY DONN: That's the point.

[00:27:55] TREY GERRALD: why did you say four

[00:27:57] CHELSEY DONN: So funny cuz 'I think we both really influenced each other because 'I had five crowns out and then you said the whole thing about the bait and switch and is this just Jessie Kay being really good at her job and being A' really good business woman. And did she kind of put A' spell on me by really A'.

Establishing herself as A' professional. And that's the only reason why 'I went with four crowns. 'I really wanted to go with five, but you did. You just planted that seed in my, my head and 'I. 'I wanted to leave A' tiny space for am 'I being manipulated here. But 'I really don't think that 'I am 'I.

Think that Jessie Kay did A' really good job of taking back the reins of her business and her company, and the four and A' half stars that she has earned for her Yelp page. So looking forward to hearing that five star review and four Crowns for being nearly A', Review Queen, and certainly A' Review Queen for Trey.

So good job, Jesse Kay.

[00:28:49] TREY GERRALD: You wanna take A' break? Let's take A'. Quick break. All right. And then we'll be back.

[00:28:55] VOICEOVER: Hold your crown. We'll be right back.

[00:29:08] CHELSEY DONN: All right.

[00:29:09] TREY GERRALD: no, 'I. Have to do

[00:29:09] CHELSEY DONN: Oh, shoot. 'I always forgot. Woo Woo. All right. It is game time Trey. Get yourself ready. 'I have made A' custom game for Trey, and you, our listeners, be sure to play along. This game is called, Were they matched or were they not matched? So you're gonna say yes, they were matched, or no, they were not matched. I'm gonna give you two celebrities and you are gonna tell me whether they have dated, gone on A' date, had any sort of romantic anything at any point, or if they have not. Are you ready? Trey.

[00:30:06] TREY GERRALD: Oh no. I'm so scared.

[00:30:08] CHELSEY DONN: be scared. You got this diva. All right, we're starting off with A'. Personal favorite of mine, Julia Roberts and George Clooney. Were they matched ever?

[00:30:23] TREY GERRALD: They have to have been, yes, they were matched.

[00:30:26] CHELSEY DONN: No, they were not matched.

[00:30:30] TREY GERRALD: that's interesting. Good for them.

[00:30:32] CHELSEY DONN: They were not matched. All right. Moving on. Lanis Morissette and Ryan Reynolds, were they matched?

[00:30:44] TREY GERRALD: Ryan Reynolds is now with Gossip Girl. I'm gonna say they probably did date.

[00:30:48] CHELSEY DONN: Yes. Ryan Reynolds and Alana Morissette did date. They met at Drew Barrymore's birthday party in 2002 and would announce their engagement two years later. Their engagement lasted for three years until they publicly broke it off. Isn't that crazy? 'I did not know that.

[00:31:07] TREY GERRALD: 'I. Thought you were gonna say Alanis and Dave Collier and 'I was gonna be like 'I know they dated.

[00:31:11] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, moving on. Timothy Chalamet and Zeniah.

[00:31:20] VOICEOVER: 'I.

[00:31:22] TREY GERRALD: I'm gonna say no cuz she's with Tom Holland and they're all three years

[00:31:26] CHELSEY DONN: That's correct. Trey.

[00:31:28] TREY GERRALD: Ooh,

[00:31:28] CHELSEY DONN: You're doing great. Diva. Okay. Amy Polar and John Stamos.

[00:31:38] TREY GERRALD: no, there's no way they dated. There's no way. No

[00:31:41] CHELSEY DONN: Yes, they did.

[00:31:44] TREY GERRALD: really.

[00:31:44] CHELSEY DONN: Can you believe it? Amy Poer admitted on Howard Stern that after she split from her husband Will Arnett, she rebounded with full House Star John Stamos. Good for you. Amy Poer

[00:31:58] TREY GERRALD: Wow.

[00:31:59] CHELSEY DONN: moving on Pink and Joey Fatone.

[00:32:07] TREY GERRALD: No. No. 'I. Don't

[00:32:09] CHELSEY DONN: Yes, they did. Pink. Admitted that she dated the former Sing Star in A' June. Issue of

[00:32:19] TREY GERRALD: Wow. 'I would not think that Alicia would be interested in Joey Fatten. 'I would think she would

[00:32:23] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah, she actually said that Joey was in love with her and he took her on dates and he brought her ice cream. And he's A'. He's A' sweetheart.

[00:32:34] TREY GERRALD: believe that.

[00:32:34] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, moving on. Janet Jackson and Matthew McConaughey.

[00:32:45] TREY GERRALD: I'm gonna say, no,

[00:32:47] CHELSEY DONN: Yes, they did date. They met after meeting at the 2002 Grammy Awards and they dated for A' short period of time.

[00:32:55] TREY GERRALD: I'm not A' Matchmaker,

[00:32:57] CHELSEY DONN: We have four wrong and two, right? All right. Moving on. Jennifer Aniston and Paul Rudd.

[00:33:09] TREY GERRALD: No. Oh my God, I'm so

[00:33:12] CHELSEY DONN: they did. They did date, they go way back. They've been costars in multiple movies and dated for A' short period of time while filming the object of my affection, and now they're just really good friends. Okay, Harry Styles and Ariana Grande.

[00:33:35] TREY GERRALD: I'm gonna say no to this.

[00:33:37] CHELSEY DONN: That is correct. There were rumors that they dated, but Ariana said he's A' very nice boy, but I'm not like, he's just A' nice friend.

[00:33:47] TREY GERRALD: That's the quote.

[00:33:48] CHELSEY DONN: That's the quote.

[00:33:49] TREY GERRALD: Mm-hmm.

[00:33:50] CHELSEY DONN: 'I know. Love it. Okay, two more. Moving on. Tyra Banks and Drake.

[00:34:01] VOICEOVER: 'I.

[00:34:01] TREY GERRALD: Oh, 'I have no idea. I'm gonna say no

[00:34:06] CHELSEY DONN: they did. Drake confirmed on the Ellen DeGeneres show that he and Tyra Banks went on A' date together. All right, our final, here we go. Madonna and Iris Elba.

[00:34:23] TREY GERRALD: Okay, so my instinct is to say yes, but 'I know that 'I just elbow was married. Cuz that was like, part of why he was so attractive is everyone was like, oh my God, he's so hunky. I'm gonna say no, they never dated.

[00:34:34] CHELSEY DONN: That is correct. No, they didn't date 'I. Just Elba and Madonna were rumored to be hooking up in October of 2016. But Elba quickly denied the rumors.

[00:34:44] TREY GERRALD: Oh, is Eris Elba? Married? Isn't Eris Elba British? Oh, and Madonna thought she was British for A' while,

[00:34:51] CHELSEY DONN: that's right. That's right. She did adopt A' British accent. All right, Trey, you didn't do terrible.

[00:34:55] TREY GERRALD: all right. 'I got six wrong and 'I

[00:34:57] CHELSEY DONN: And for Right.

[00:34:59] TREY GERRALD: All

[00:34:59] CHELSEY DONN: Good job, diva.

[00:35:01] TREY GERRALD: Stinger

[00:35:01] CHELSEY DONN: No, you're no Patty Stanger. But you know what? Not terrible. And if you're listening, did you beat Trey? Let us know. 1 8 50 review. Zero.

[00:35:09] TREY GERRALD: odds are high that you beat me,

[00:35:14] CHELSEY DONN: Well, you did great.

[00:35:18] VOICEOVER: Review, That, Review.

[00:35:22] CHELSEY DONN: All right, we are back from that rousing game break and it is Trey's turn. Did you like that?

[00:35:30] TREY GERRALD: 'I Got it.

[00:35:32] CHELSEY DONN: All right. Trey.

[00:35:33] TREY GERRALD: Even though that game proved 'I am not A' matchmaker, 'I was responsible for finding the five star. So today, 'I will be sharing A' five star review from Yelp for the real matchmaker, written by Vanessa W

[00:35:48] CHELSEY DONN: Ooh. All right. 'I. Can't wait to hear it.

[00:35:51] TREY GERRALD: if you wanna hear the flip side, you know you gotta go join our Patreon.

[00:35:55] CHELSEY DONN: That's right. If you haven't joined us over there yet, then make today the day. Review That Review dot com slash patreon.

[00:36:03] TREY GERRALD: Yes, join us for that opposite review as well as A' brand new round on the Meryl-Go-Round.

[00:36:11] CHELSEY DONN: Only available to members at Review That Review dot com slash

[00:36:16] TREY GERRALD: Patreon. Yay. All right. We did A'. Queen. That was fun. That was another round, half round on the R u A' rq. A' Ferris Wheel of Love. Love.

[00:36:28] CHELSEY DONN: Very nice Trey. Thank you for joining us today. If you like what you heard, please tell A' Friend or love A'.

[00:36:35] TREY GERRALD: If you didn't like what you heard, please tell an enemy or non-law A'.

[00:36:40] CHELSEY DONN: If you'd like to support the production of our show, visit Review That Review dot com slash donate or even A' Dollar tip is much. Appreciate it.

[00:36:49] TREY GERRALD: Make sure you join our mailing list as well. You can find that at Review That Review dot com so that you're up to date with all of the goings on in the Queen dom and even special discount codes.

[00:36:59] CHELSEY DONN: And hit up our voice mailbox. We do have A' few voicemails coming up, so if you left them, don't worry, they're gonna be coming out soon. But give us A'. Call at one eight five zero review zero. You can also follow us on all the socials at the review Queens, I'm at ChelseyBD.

[00:37:16] TREY GERRALD: And 'I am at Trey Gerrald and as we mentioned to hear that five star flip side review for the real matchmaker. Then you gotta join our weekly after show companion podcast on Patreon so that you what 'I have to change the order of this.

[00:37:33] CHELSEY DONN: Thank you. Do you remember last week?

[00:37:35] TREY GERRALD: of course. So yes, if you want to hear the flip side, how do 'I intro it then?

[00:37:42] CHELSEY DONN: Mm-hmm.

[00:37:43] TREY GERRALD: Oh, so it has to just be,

[00:37:44] CHELSEY DONN: You made me do or watch the five star review?

[00:37:47] TREY GERRALD: Let me just read it. To hear or watch that five star review from Yelp for the real matchmaker on this week's after Show Companion podcast. Then join our Patreon page. Why don't Ya, over at Review That Review dot com slash patreon so that you can find out what made ChelseyBD say.

[00:38:08] CHELSEY DONN: 'I just how many times have 'I said that? And to find out what made Trey say,

[00:38:15] TREY GERRALD: But what if you get A' divorce? Does that mean that match didn't count? Because now I'm wondering, legally, can you sue your matchmaker? If you end up getting A' divorce, then we'll see you over on Patreon. In the meantime, remember

[00:38:29] CHELSEY DONN: Haters.

[00:38:32] TREY GERRALD: gender nonspecific Queen love. Bye.

Review That Review is an independent podcast. Certain names have been redacted or changed to protect the guilty. Executive produced by Trey Gerrald and Chelsey Donn with editing and sound designed by me with voiceover talents by Eva Kaminsky. Our cover art was designed by LogoVora and our theme song was written by Joe Kinosian and sung by Natalie Weiss.

[00:38:54] CHELSEY DONN: If you wanna be my lover,

[00:38:56] TREY GERRALD: You gotta go

[00:38:57] CHELSEY DONN: go with my friend. Isn't that kind of weird though? Like if you wanna be my lover, you have to also like get with my friends,

[00:39:04] TREY GERRALD: Does that mean sexually get with or does it mean you have

[00:39:06] CHELSEY DONN: 'I know 'I think it just means like you gotta get along with my friends, but also it's like gotta get with my friends. Like, okay,

[00:39:12] TREY GERRALD: yeah. That's A' confusing syntax.

[00:39:14] CHELSEY DONN: right. Spice girls love them.



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