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TRANSCRIPT of Episode 104: "Handyman: 1 vs 5 Stars"

Review That Review with Chelsey Donn & Trey Gerrald
Episode 104: "Handyman: 1 vs 5 Stars"


*Please pardon any and all spelling errors!

[00:00:00] THEME SONG: Everybody's got an opinion.

Every Californian and Virginian.

It's so hard to tell who to trust and who to ignore.

Someone's gotta settle the score.

Trey and Chelsey will help you choose!

Whose views win, which ones lose.

Online haters are comin' for you!

Baby, it's time to Review That Review!

[00:00:31] CHELSEY DONN: Hello.

[00:00:33] TREY GERRALD: Oh my goodness. Hey, Chelsey, I didn't know you were gonna be here.

[00:00:36] CHELSEY DONN: Surprise.

[00:00:37] TREY GERRALD: Oh my gosh. And hello listeners. We knew you'd be here. And welcome once again to Review That Review. We are the podcast that is dedicated to reviewing.

[00:00:50] CHELSEY DONN: Reviews we're just like Cisco and Ebert only. Instead of reviewing cinematic masterpieces, we rate and review those hilarious, scathing, and sometimes suspicious online reviews,

[00:01:02] TREY GERRALD: That is Chelsey Donn,

[00:01:03] CHELSEY DONN: and that is Trey Gerrald.

[00:01:06] TREY GERRALD: but when we come together, we form the dynamic duo known as

[00:01:11] VOICEOVER: The Review, Queen,

[00:01:14] TREY GERRALD: well. ChelseyBD 'I. Do wanna take this little moment and I'm gonna really have to go ahead and

[00:01:19] VOICEOVER: Lodge, A, Complaint.

[00:01:20] CHELSEY DONN: please.

[00:01:21] TREY GERRALD: I'm sure that we've done this before. You briefly mentioned it before we started recording, but my allergies are so bad and 'I, I'm gonna be A' little more specific here, but 'I cannot stop sneezing and my nose will not stop running and I'm constantly blowing my nose.

And my real Complaint here is 'I. Guess I've become addicted to Zyrtec without being aware because 'I do take A' pill. Every morning for Zyrtec, which 'I, which 'I know is like not the best case scenario, but when 'I, miss A' Day, 'I feel smacked by A' bus. So my real Complaint here is how it is advised in the sign industry.

Is that even A' word, 'I.

[00:02:05] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah. Yeah, I'm

[00:02:06] TREY GERRALD: sinus industry that you vary your allergy supplements because your body gets conditioned. But I'm so scared of the time in between. Yes. And then what if it doesn't work? Cuz 'I get decimated by seasonal allergies and it's like 'I walk outside and my car is black, but it has A' tinge of like A' yellow

[00:02:28] CHELSEY DONN: the pollen.

[00:02:28] TREY GERRALD: the pollen.

God, it's. Awful. That's my Complaint. Why do our bodies get conditioned that's annoying? And B, like how do 'I like survive in A' world where I'm allergic to stuff?

[00:02:40] CHELSEY DONN: Obviously 'I am with you. 'I also take Zyrtec every day also. Yes, it did kind of come up, but it is sort of funny cuz Trey, look, 'I always write down my Complaint on A' piece of paper before we start. And 'I had one and then 'I changed it to this right before we hopped on. So if you see here, My Complaint is unfulfilled.


[00:03:03] TREY GERRALD: A', there is nothing worse.

[00:03:07] CHELSEY DONN: I'm telling you guys, there's been A' sneeze that's been trying to get out since this morning, and 'I know that like I'm like laughing at myself as it's happening because I'm like,

[00:03:17] TREY GERRALD: Mm-hmm.

[00:03:19] CHELSEY DONN: And then nothing comes out. We need A' sneeze. What is this? BS with the unfulfilled sneezes.

[00:03:27] TREY GERRALD: Isn't sneezing like such A' weird thing when you think about it. Like our body is like expelling it like, and it's like A' sound that we never make except for in this one scenario,

[00:03:38] CHELSEY DONN: But just like so annoying. And the allergies must be just full frontal on both coasts. Unsurprisingly spring,

[00:03:47] TREY GERRALD: It's also because like when you have an allergy attack, your body is dealing with like A' sickness, but it isn't like you are sick. So it's just like that sensation of like, Ugh, I'm not at 100. But like, nothing's really wrong except for like your sinuses, which is like you can plow through, but it's just more.

Like A', constant annoyance, but then not being able to fulfill the relief is insane.

[00:04:12] CHELSEY DONN: Awful. All day. All day. I've been trying to get the sneeze out.

[00:04:16] TREY GERRALD: If only we had someone handy that could help us.

[00:04:19] CHELSEY DONN: If only we had A' handy man, that could help restore my nose.

[00:04:25] TREY GERRALD: But that's A' beautiful segue. ChelseyBD, do you wanna go? Hey,

[00:04:29] CHELSEY DONN: 'I do try. Let's do it.

[00:04:32] TREY GERRALD: it. Let's do it. A'.

[00:04:34] CHELSEY DONN: A', chew.

[00:04:35] VOICEOVER: Assess, That, Kvetch.

[00:04:37] TREY GERRALD: Queens today is another versus episode,

[00:04:40] CHELSEY DONN: Woo.

[00:04:41] TREY GERRALD: and today we are gonna be covering both A' one star and A' five star review on the same topic. Today's topic, wow. N Y C Handyman

A' Company based in Brooklyn, New York.

[00:04:55] CHELSEY DONN: For this versus episode, Trey has selected the one star, and 'I have selected the five star. So to determine who reads first, we gotta flip that quota. 'I think. You guess try.

[00:05:08] TREY GERRALD: 'I gonna say Tales.

[00:05:09] CHELSEY DONN: Okay. 'I.

[00:05:11] TREY GERRALD: It's tales.

[00:05:11] CHELSEY DONN: Woo Trey wins. That's right. Today. As Trey mentioned, we are covering reviews from around the house problem solvers.

Wow NYC Handy men. At the time of this recording, the wows have 58 reviews on Yelp with an average score of 4.8 outta five, not too shabby. According to their website, wow, handy They are A' small operation which consists of A', small group of old friends who happen to be handy. So Trey, with all that background info in mind, let's jump right in.


[00:05:51] VOICEOVER: Review, That, Review.

[00:05:55] TREY GERRALD: All right. Yeah. So today 'I was tasked with finding the one star review for Wow. NYC handyman. Well, we get into the, like when we're assessing, we have to talk about that title, okay. Of this company. So, all right. This is the One Star review. It's written by Joey. Oh,

[00:06:15] CHELSEY DONN: Oh,

[00:06:16] TREY GERRALD: it made me think of, whoa.

[00:06:19] CHELSEY DONN: whoa. Yeah, me too. Like from Blossom

[00:06:21] TREY GERRALD: Yeah, we're old.

All right, so here we go. So Joey owes one star Yelp review, calling him on the phone and leaving him A' message of the job. And he responds to me by text. Now 'I need explain my whole situation again by text. That's fine. Even so then 'I explain to him for an hour back and forth through text the situation, and he gives me A', ballpark price.

It seems like we are A'. Go on the job. 'I told him you're hired. Gave him the address and then asked him what days are you available? No response. It's been since yesterday. Morning. Time is money even if he needed to think it over. Still A'. Long time at least. Tell me, sorry. We're not going to do your job and make up some story or give me A' heads up that he hasn't forgotten about me. With all those great Yelp reviews, it has me scratching my head, but to leave me high and dry is not cool.

[00:07:28] CHELSEY DONN: Okay. Short and sweet Joey O. Actually I'll say short and not sweet. 'I. 'I. Think this is interesting. 'I. Think Joey o.

[00:07:40] TREY GERRALD: Oh,

[00:07:40] CHELSEY DONN: o. O has A'. Very 'I. Fragile ego

[00:07:46] TREY GERRALD: Mm.

[00:07:47] CHELSEY DONN: 'I think that one of the most interesting sentences of this review was the make up A' story. You know, li Lie to me. What's that about? Joey 'I would rather someone be honest than make up A' story.

[00:08:03] TREY GERRALD: Mm-hmm.

[00:08:04] CHELSEY DONN: And 'I also think it's interesting that Joey is jumping to so many conclusions in A' 24 hour span. 'I mean less than now. We're talking about A' Yelp handyman in New York City with A' 4.8 Overall.

[00:08:25] TREY GERRALD: Yeah.

[00:08:26] CHELSEY DONN: To me, what that means is this person is probably very busy. So if 'I contacted them and they got back to me right away yesterday morning and I'm sort of waiting for A' follow up on scheduling, I'm not gonna run to Yelp and write A' one star review within A' Day, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt for at least.

A' few days, 'I would say minimum 'I. Really think that Joey is jumping to conclusions here in this review.

[00:08:59] TREY GERRALD: But 'I also hear the Complaint that it's like 'I called that I'm getting Communication via Text. And 'I have experienced that personally with handyman 'I. So there must be something about the texting that's maybe easier

[00:09:15] CHELSEY DONN: mean. Yeah, they're on A' job,

[00:09:17] TREY GERRALD: If you're on A' job site, it might be loud. But your point here about literally less than 24 hours later, you're leaving A' one star review.


[00:09:27] CHELSEY DONN: mean that feels A' little like we're jumping the gun Joey. Right? 'I mean. Even if you were like, I'm gonna write this person off because 'I don't like people that don't get back to me right away. 'I. 'I, guess that's like your prerogative. But to immediately jump to, and then I'm gonna go on Yelp and I'm gonna write A' one star review.

Like, where is that gonna end for you? Because if I'm the business owner, 'I mean 'I don't think that if 'I was like A', busy handyman, and 'I had A' 4.8 overall, that 'I would even maybe bother responding to this, nor would 'I wanna work with this person because they don't seem like they have realistic expectations.

So many times jobs become way more complicated than you thought they were going to. So for me, this is A' red flag from A' customer perspective. Like if 'I own this handyman service, 'I wouldn't wanna work with this person because if they're not gonna gimme the benefit of the doubt of. 24-hour turnaround for A' response without writing A' one review.

Well, what are they gonna do if like, we start to do the job and then we realize that there's something else that needs to be done? Or this person just sounds like they'd be A' nightmare to work with

[00:10:36] TREY GERRALD: 'I mean? Yes. 'I am also hearing like, phew. You like

lucked out on Dodged A' bullet.

[00:10:42] CHELSEY DONN: the spelling and grammar really atrocious.

[00:10:45] TREY GERRALD: there's really been no proofreading here. And some sentences start with A' capital. Some do not. It also feels like the review starts in the bi in the middle. There's no intro or


[00:10:58] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah. 'I was like very, 'I was having A' hard time at the top of this review catching up, like, where are we? What's happening?

[00:11:05] TREY GERRALD: And it also does absolutely seem shady to me

[00:11:09] CHELSEY DONN: Mm-hmm.

[00:11:09] TREY GERRALD: because it doesn't even seem like, like Joey isn't even saying that I've followed up three times and no response. They've obviously abandoned me. Like it feels very shady that you've just immediately gone to Yelp, like you didn't even employ them.

[00:11:22] CHELSEY DONN: It's one of those one star reviews that is not commenting on the service that was provided. Right? It's like you didn't get the service from handyman. So if I'm gonna have A' one star review 'I. On my profile, 'I would rather it be something that's so ridiculous like this, like you didn't get back to me within 24 hours because there's no Complaint here about the service provided.

It's not like, oh, they came and they put A' hole in my wall. Right. There's, there's really nothing negative in this review about while handyman. Other than the, maybe not responding right away, but again, just in having worked with so many handyman and knowing how involved these jobs are, like, do you really want your handyman on the job site for you texting other people?

'I mean maybe they could have A' dispatcher or something like that, but 'I don't know. 'I. Just think we have to be A'. L When was this written?

[00:12:14] TREY GERRALD: Four years ago, 'I mean the only sort of like unique information here is like perhaps wow is not the best at communication. But 'I don't even know if 'I would apply that because it really just seems like Joey is A' little off center.

[00:12:32] CHELSEY DONN: 'I. Think it's hard for Joey to be wowed by anyone,

[00:12:38] TREY GERRALD: Yeah.

[00:12:39] CHELSEY DONN: 'I overall. Just get this very fragile ego sad boy story.

[00:12:45] VOICEOVER: There's A' reply.

[00:12:46] CHELSEY DONN: there's A' reply. See?

[00:12:48] TREY GERRALD: You knew it. You felt A'. So here we go. So we have A' reply from the business owner. Their name is Joe Mar. Joe Mar says, what happened. We texted yesterday morning while 'I was on my way to A' job on the Upper West Side from Ridgewood on my bike. 'I sent A' text that didn't go through, which 'I honestly didn't realize till now.

After seeing this and checking my messages, 'I got home yesterday after 10:00 PM Anybody reading this, keep in mind, he is not reviewing any services rendered.

[00:13:25] CHELSEY DONN: There you

[00:13:26] TREY GERRALD: We didn't even say when we could book the job. And made no promises. All we said was we would figure out A' Day to go Assess the job in person, which we do for free on our time.

We have to prioritize booked jobs. Obviously,

[00:13:48] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, well 'I mean hit the nail in the head with that one. 'I mean.

[00:13:53] TREY GERRALD: right.

[00:13:54] CHELSEY DONN: Clearly you do have to prioritize paid work. 'I think that the response was really good. 'I think it did exactly what 'I wanted it to do, which was not like 'I. Be nasty about it, but just like address it and point out the fact that, yeah, this is not A' reflection of the work that we do.

This is A' reflection of A' person that wanted A' response immediately and didn't get one. Do 'I buy the bike thing? 'I. Think 'I do.

[00:14:20] TREY GERRALD: Well, my only main critic like 'I, think Joe Mar does an amazing job of sort of like being calm and sort of like grounding A' reality. That feels truthful to me. 'I. 'I for some reason because it doesn't feel ludicrous. The story 'I buy honestly because they also fess up and say, 'I honestly didn't even catch that.

The message didn't go through until 'I found this review. Like that feels like they're admitting possible fault of of A' portion of this and being very honest and saying like, we never booked and we never confirmed like it, it seems

like 'I have to 'I.

[00:14:59] CHELSEY DONN: see. 'I can see the logic I'm teetering with like, did we even need the bike? Excuse? Did that help matters? 'I mean? 'I guess because of what you just said. It is them fessing up too. 'I didn't realize it didn't go through like you know, it is saying 'I made A' mistake. 'I guess in A'.

Roundabout way. Interesting.

[00:15:21] VOICEOVER: There is A' reply.

[00:15:22] CHELSEY DONN: another applause. Stop

[00:15:24] TREY GERRALD: so now Joey has A'

[00:15:25] CHELSEY DONN: Oh my God. Stop. Joey, you are backed.

[00:15:29] TREY GERRALD: This is A' real battle between Oh and wow.

[00:15:33] CHELSEY DONN: and Joe.

[00:15:35] TREY GERRALD: Yeah. All right, here we go. Joey

[00:15:38] CHELSEY DONN: of the Joe's.

[00:15:39] TREY GERRALD: Reply to Joe Mar's. Reply

[00:15:43] CHELSEY DONN: Geez.

[00:15:43] TREY GERRALD: Responding to his reply to my review, and I'm done. No time for this petty stuff.

[00:15:49] CHELSEY DONN: Oh my God.

[00:15:50] TREY GERRALD: He told me that his text to me didn't go through 'I, told him on text, screenshot the text that didn't go through and send it to me and I'll remove my Yelp review.

[00:16:00] CHELSEY DONN: Ew, gross.

[00:16:02] TREY GERRALD: he didn't, he was not even apologetic. Narcissist the end.

[00:16:11] CHELSEY DONN: Oh, okay, so Joey's definitely unhinged. Okay, so the feelings 'I was getting about Joey being unhinged are now further solidified. If there's anyone that I've met who calls people narcissists the most, it's narcissists.

[00:16:29] TREY GERRALD: Narcissist, God, isn't that A'? Quote.

[00:16:32] CHELSEY DONN: Love to call other people narcissists. Nine times outta 10. If someone is referring to someone as A', narcissist, be A'.

Little bit careful. 'I don't know 'I. Just think there's like A' way of talking about it. But somebody that's gonna immediately just go for A', narcissist out A', freaking nowhere. Like what are you trying to do here?

[00:16:55] TREY GERRALD: It's really rich to call someone A' narcissist for defending themselves on their own Yelp page about themselves.

[00:17:04] CHELSEY DONN: like how gross to be like, send me A' screenshot. Let it freaking go, Joey. Oh,

[00:17:11] TREY GERRALD: Well, in the same breath, it's like the one claiming they have no time for. Petty stuff is literally spending so much time on Petty's except for Autocorrecting.

[00:17:20] CHELSEY DONN: Save myself the headache. Like, block Joey 'I. Don't ever wanna talk to this person. Like,

[00:17:27] TREY GERRALD: Well,

[00:17:28] CHELSEY DONN: imagine trying to get Joey to pay for the job? Or A' like,

[00:17:34] TREY GERRALD: having them be happy with your work. Oh, it's be 'I possible

[00:17:38] CHELSEY DONN: probably, oh, Joe Mar would go there for free to do the assessment and then 'I. Something would, it would be terrible getting there. And then Joey wouldn't even book 'I mean 'I.

Can't even imagine. This does not sound like A' stable person.

[00:17:54] TREY GERRALD: Okay, so does Joey's reply help the case at all?

[00:17:58] CHELSEY DONN: Absolutely not. Joey's reply actually like 'I was, 'I was at A' certain place in my mind. Calculation mental math with the crowning. And now I'm in A' lower place because of this reply. This reply had the opposite impact. Joey let us in A' little bit to his personality.

'I was picking up on some things and then this reply really made it all that much more worse. All, all that.

[00:18:28] VOICEOVER: There is A'

[00:18:29] CHELSEY DONN: Stop it. Stop it.

[00:18:32] TREY GERRALD: All right, so now Joe Mar has A' reply to Joey's reply of Joe Mar's.

[00:18:38] CHELSEY DONN: Okay. This is not looking that good for Joe Mar, but I'm super curious to hear what they're gonna say. Oh man, this is A' rollercoaster ride. Trey

[00:18:47] TREY GERRALD: Joe Mar says, update. He just texted me that he's going to change the review to yesterday morning parentheses. Originally he said three days had gone by. They also manage 72 properties, he says, and the job he called us for is for A' tenant that called the city on them, as per his original message to me.

So, Anybody can see what 'I was dealing with. Then he tried to strong arm me if 'I do this or that. Parenthesis sent him A' pick of the unsent message. He would take the review down. 'I told him to leave it, but 'I posted the picture of my unsent message on my photos for anyone interested in seeing that my response didn't go through.

It happens. Please keep in mind that 'I am very involved on my business. 'I, do work with my guys plus 'I, do the office work. If you don't hear from me, please harass me. 'I, don't mind. I'm human and do forget stuff, which wasn't the case here, but still

[00:20:01] CHELSEY DONN: Wow. Joe Mar Joe Mar's replies keep getting better and better, and

[00:20:06] TREY GERRALD: 'I know.

[00:20:07] CHELSEY DONN: worse and worse. When 'I heard the Joe Mar double reply, 'I thought, oh, this is not gonna be good. We're getting into the weeds here. Who cares about this person? But Joe Mar did it again, man, even stronger. 'I. 'I. Mean 'I.

Think it's A'. Tko. Can 'I say that Joey 'I don't know if Joey's gonna respond again, but So, okay. Joey is like A' property manager,

[00:20:31] TREY GERRALD: 'I, A', 'I. Don't know. It seems that Joey has 72 properties.

[00:20:35] CHELSEY DONN: that they manage Presum.

[00:20:37] TREY GERRALD: guess is that's what it seems, which makes it even crazy.

[00:20:40] CHELSEY DONN: So Joey contacted Joe Mar, this is A'. Lot of Jojo's. Joey contacted Joe Mar and

[00:20:46] TREY GERRALD: For their client, Joanne,

[00:20:49] CHELSEY DONN: For their client, Joanne, they're like, Hey, Jomar, I'm Joey.

Joanne who called the city on us, is having A' problem with her plumbing. Can you come and fix it as soon as possible?

[00:21:00] TREY GERRALD: that actually adds A' little context to maybe why Joey is so emotional and so concerned about the timeline,

[00:21:09] CHELSEY DONN: Right, because there's the thread of the city. But even so slam dunk for Joe Mar and 'I do think that Joe Mar is leaving this winning. We had the first review, Joe Mar replied in like A', pretty generic way, just gonna defend myself. Then Joey came back punching harder, and then Joe Marr felt like, well, let me actually tell you

[00:21:32] TREY GERRALD: All right here.

[00:21:33] CHELSEY DONN: here.

So what's interesting is we're getting the most information in this review that Joey, of course, never

[00:21:41] TREY GERRALD: include Exactly. Yeah. Isn't that some shit?

[00:21:44] CHELSEY DONN: Oh, and then also 'I was gonna ask you, so then Joe Mar, can you re include A' photo as A' reply for owner? And did they include the photo of the screenshot?

[00:21:54] TREY GERRALD: There's no photo attached to the review or the reply. So Joe Marr is saying that they attached it to their like photos.

[00:22:02] CHELSEY DONN: Like their Yelp photos. Interesting.

[00:22:04] TREY GERRALD: There's 35 photos,

[00:22:06] CHELSEY DONN: Are there more replies from Joey? Yours is the end of the saga.

[00:22:10] TREY GERRALD: are no text photos listed on the Yelp photo album of photos for wow NYC handyman,

[00:22:18] CHELSEY DONN: 'I. Mean. 'I. Trust Joe Mar. Still 'I. Don't think that Joe Mar

[00:22:22] TREY GERRALD: and this is four years ago, maybe after A', while Joe Marr was like, you know what? I'm taking this off of the profile. Like

[00:22:27] CHELSEY DONN: right. It's ridiculous, right?

[00:22:29] TREY GERRALD: I'm A' legit business 'I.

[00:22:30] CHELSEY DONN: Right. Yeah. Interesting.

[00:22:32] VOICEOVER: There's A' reply.

[00:22:33] CHELSEY DONN: Is that why you were not answering me when 'I kept asking you, 'I can't deal with this? Trey,

[00:22:39] TREY GERRALD: right, so now Joey has A' reply to Joe Mar's. Reply to Joey's. Reply to Joe Mar's. Reply of Joey's review. So Joey's

[00:22:50] CHELSEY DONN: can only imagine. He's gonna make himself look fabulous.

[00:22:54] TREY GERRALD: updated, now you are taking it to the next level. 'I 'I. Don't know how you got those five stars.

[00:23:02] CHELSEY DONN: Oh my God,

[00:23:04] TREY GERRALD: All your family Pro Ben, you talk about bad karma, you will be judged appropriately

[00:23:13] CHELSEY DONN: Jesus.

[00:23:13] TREY GERRALD: A' future, bro 'I. If you come off right to mistakes that you Made is A' better approach, and most likely 'I would've removed this review.

Throwing lies, accusations, and turning this on me did not help you at all.

[00:23:32] CHELSEY DONN: my God. Okay.

[00:23:37] TREY GERRALD: This A' soap opera.

[00:23:39] CHELSEY DONN: mean the karma comment again, it's sitting similar to the narcissist comment. 'I

[00:23:44] TREY GERRALD: Yes, it's,

[00:23:45] CHELSEY DONN: 'I. It's just, it's kind of funny to me that Joey is sitting on their high horse thinking that this argument is making them look better when they just keep making themselves look worse and worse. Stop.

What are you trying to achieve from this Joey? Like end it already like nowhere. In your original review is there. A', A', Complaint, that 'I think. Anyone would think is valid, so let's just like start there. Your only Complaint is that this person didn't get back to you right away. Not that they did shitty work.

[00:24:17] TREY GERRALD: No, it's not even that ChelseyBD. It's that they haven't gotten back to me yet.

[00:24:22] CHELSEY DONN: right. Immediately, and, and then in the reply they said like, oh, 'I tried to get back to you. 'I didn't. My bad. Like they did what you said they should have done, which is 'I. Own up to what they did wrong, which they did. So what is Joey talking about? The only person that keeps like going lower and lower and lower is Joey and 'I.

Feel like Joe Mar is just responding. But this is like A' soap opera at this point. 'I feel like

[00:24:52] TREY GERRALD: the spelling and grammar gets worse and worse every time.

It's almost.

[00:24:55] CHELSEY DONN: and that's the other thing. Yes. Thank you for bringing that up. Who is actually spending quality time on this Joe Mar? At least you can understand what he's saying. It's just like ridiculous And

[00:25:06] VOICEOVER: There is A' reply.

[00:25:08] CHELSEY DONN: Stop it. Trey.

[00:25:10] TREY GERRALD: All right, ChelseyBD. So now Joe Mar has A' reply to Joey's. Reply to Joe Mar's. Reply to Joey's. Reply to Joe Mar's. Reply to Joey's review.

[00:25:22] CHELSEY DONN: I'm rooting for you, Joe

[00:25:23] TREY GERRALD: All right, here we go, Joey. In response to the last paragraph you added, 'I made no mistakes, brother. The message didn't go through as the picture proves, and 'I didn't lie.

At any point in our interaction, you said 'I didn't get back to you for three days when the whole thing happened the day before. Let people come to their own conclusions. I'm not afraid of that, and have nothing to hide. 'I even texted you that we could still gladly help you, that the property is but five blocks from me, but you didn't reply back in the future.

You just hit me up again, man. Plain and simple, brother. I'm human and do forget stuff, which 'I swear wasn't the case here. 'I was waiting for you to get back to me. For some reason you took A' personal and left A' bad review. That's fine man. But like 'I said, the picture is up and my message didn't go through.

'I caps never let people hanging. Whether 'I can take the job or not, it's all good. You are just A' hard man to please and you have the right to be. You have left 21 Yelp reviews to other businesses. 16, which are one or two stars, and in eight years you are the first person that leaves A' bad review.

Instead of sending A' simple text like, Hey, are we still on? And your whole review was about you feeling 'I just ignored you, but the picture of the message not delivered proves otherwise. And still, you left A' bad review, but that says more about you than me.

[00:27:10] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah. Queen, Jomar,

[00:27:13] TREY GERRALD: mic drop motherfucker.

[00:27:15] CHELSEY DONN: Jomar. We are in such agreement. Everything that 'I said in my initial assessment was confirmed here. Like Joey was so but hurt now. 'I hate that expression. Joey was so. by this exchange with Joe Mar 'I. Don't know if this is just Joey's Mo as was pointed out by the fact that they seem to only write negative reviews.

'I think that was A' Queenly move. 'I did sort of feel like as this was going on. 'I can't believe that Joe Mar is still entertaining this. But each time it gets better and better. You're like, wow, this Joey guy is A' real jerk. And even still Joe Mar's. Like, I'll work with you man. I'll work with you brother.

'I don't got A'. Problem with it. If you wanna call me up, I'm here. That's A' Queenly move.

[00:28:07] TREY GERRALD: 'I think so too, and like 'I. Don't think Joey deserves it.

[00:28:10] CHELSEY DONN: 'I don't think that most people would be able to have this much composure.

[00:28:16] TREY GERRALD: Okay. In full disclosure here, obviously when you look at Yelp, it's like Joey's review. Then there's two enters, then the first reply, then two enters updated, and then you have Joe Mars, and Joe Mars is also Joe Mar's reply. Then you have an enter the update. Then you have an enter. So I'm sort of broke it up so that it would be linear.

[00:28:38] CHELSEY DONN: No, I'm glad that you did. You're seeing the back and forth

[00:28:41] TREY GERRALD: But you literally say the points, and then Joe Mar says the points like Joe Mar is A'. Review. Queen.

[00:28:48] CHELSEY DONN: Joe Mar is A' Review Queen. No doubt. No doubt. Five crowns for Joe

[00:28:53] TREY GERRALD: but I'm even with you because I'm like, oh my God, Joe Mar needs to get out of the ring. Why do they keep

responding? And, but then every time it's an even slicker slam dunk, 'I mean it is wild.

[00:29:05] CHELSEY DONN: it is. 'I would hope that Joey would learn something from this interaction 'I. Don't think that

[00:29:12] TREY GERRALD: Learn something from this

[00:29:14] CHELSEY DONN: We were rooting for you. We were all rooting for you.

[00:29:17] TREY GERRALD: when my mother yells at me like this. That's because she loves me. All right, so 'I don't really know how to proceed from here. Would you like to crown Joey and then Crown Joe Mar, or do we feel unanimous that Joe Mar like

[00:29:29] CHELSEY DONN: 'I. Think we feel unanimous. We can hold it up for official purposes, but I'm giving five crowns to Joe

[00:29:36] TREY GERRALD: 'I am giving five crowns to

[00:29:38] CHELSEY DONN: Joe Mar's. A'. Review Queen. Joe Mar, if you're listening, I'm so excited that in the after show, 'I, get to sing your praises with this five star review because you deserve it, my friend. You are absolutely A' Review.


[00:29:49] TREY GERRALD: without question. And Joe Mar gives away what 'I was gonna save to the end. This is the single one-star review. Out of the 58 reviews 'I. And there have been four years

[00:30:01] CHELSEY DONN: Still to this day,

[00:30:02] TREY GERRALD: This is the only one star review. So considering all of the replies, should we crown Joey?

[00:30:10] CHELSEY DONN: Absolutely. Absolutely.

[00:30:12] TREY GERRALD: So ChelseyBD and 'I have our own set of zero to five crown cards.

In an effort to be fair and not influenced by one another, we will simultaneously reveal our rating.

[00:30:22] VOICEOVER: The Queens are Tabulating. A', Total, Score.

[00:30:30] CHELSEY DONN: Okay. Zero crowns. I'm assuming that's zero Crowns from Trey cuz there's nothing on there. Okay. This is A' unanimous. So 'I was thinking about this cause 'I had A' feeling that this was gonna happen. We need to have A' name for this, like 'I. A' Royal dance or like A' Royal Poo or something like that because this is A' Royal Poo, my friend Joey 'I.

Wish that 'I could like you as much as 'I. Love Joey Lawrence. Oh, but 'I, don't 'I give you an oh for zero, Joey. You only helped the business. Your review had the complete opposite effect of your intention. How could 'I give you any crowns when your review is irrelevant, my friend? So 'I hope that you have grown in the four years and Joe Mark, congratulations Joey.

Can't touch A' baby. Why Zero Crowns from you Trey?

[00:31:29] TREY GERRALD: 'I mean, I'm just.

[00:31:30] CHELSEY DONN: A' Royal

[00:31:30] TREY GERRALD: There 'I, there is an impact but it's absurdly the opposite impact Joey is reaching for. So 'I couldn't even do A' Half Crown for impact. It seems like just so much mania over on Joey's side. That only makes me like wow.

[00:31:47] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah, exactly.

[00:31:48] TREY GERRALD: Well, 'I feel like we should take this opportunity to take A' break

[00:31:51] CHELSEY DONN: Yes.

[00:31:52] TREY GERRALD: cuz 'I want to hear someone sing Joe Mars praises other than you and me.

[00:31:55] CHELSEY DONN: Thank you. Me too. Love it. B R b.

[00:31:58] TREY GERRALD: B r b.

[00:32:01] VOICEOVER: Hold your crown. We'll be right back.

[00:32:28] TREY GERRALD: It's game time. All right, ChelseyBD. So 'I have created A' game today for you and the listeners. Today we're gonna be playing A' fun game that has nothing to do with anything and yet has A'. Everything to do with everything. So today our game is called Bob the Builder, or Bob Villa, which

[00:32:55] CHELSEY DONN: Wait, wait, wait. Bob the builder or Bob Vila.

[00:33:00] TREY GERRALD: yes.

[00:33:00] CHELSEY DONN: Wait, remind me who Bob Villa is. 'I, like know him by name, but I'm forgetting.

[00:33:05] TREY GERRALD: Okay, 'I am so excited. You're gonna tell me which Bob it is. Is it Bob The Builder, which is A' very famous children's television series

or. Bob? Vela, who was A' very famous,

[00:33:17] CHELSEY DONN: chef.

[00:33:18] TREY GERRALD: um, house renovation person.

[00:33:20] CHELSEY DONN: Okay.

[00:33:21] TREY GERRALD: He used to host A' show called This Old House, and many people in our demographic know Bob Vela because on the television show, home Improvement, Tim Allen's character hated Bob Vela because Bob Vela had the career that he felt like he

[00:33:38] CHELSEY DONN: Yes. Yes. Okay. This is sounding familiar now.

[00:33:40] TREY GERRALD: So Bob Vila was like, like A' Thai Pennington, but like in the

[00:33:45] CHELSEY DONN: Good one. Love. A' Thai. Pennington.

[00:33:48] TREY GERRALD: So, yeah. So 'I have 11 questions. The last one is A' super bonus, and then you're just gonna tell me if it's builder or vila.

[00:33:56] CHELSEY DONN: Builder

[00:33:57] TREY GERRALD: Do you feel ready?

[00:33:58] CHELSEY DONN: as ready as I'm gonna be.

[00:34:00] TREY GERRALD: All right. Here we go. ChelseyBD,

[00:34:03] CHELSEY DONN: Yes.

[00:34:03] TREY GERRALD: which Bob is British.

[00:34:06] CHELSEY DONN: Ooh, Vila. No, Bob, the builder is British.

[00:34:17] TREY GERRALD: So unfortunately, Bob the builder, was originally voiced by A' British

[00:34:23] CHELSEY DONN: Wow.

[00:34:23] TREY GERRALD: voiceover artist.

[00:34:25] CHELSEY DONN: Shocking. Okay.

[00:34:26] TREY GERRALD: here we go. Which Bob served in the Peace Corps 'I.

[00:34:31] CHELSEY DONN: Oh my god. 'I mean this has to be Villa A', unless we're talking about the voiceover artist. Oh, thank

[00:34:42] TREY GERRALD: Good job. Yes. Bob Vela, after graduating Florida State University, served in the Peace Corps.

[00:34:49] CHELSEY DONN: One and one.

[00:34:50] TREY GERRALD: Okay. Which Bob has the catchphrase. Yes. We can 'I.

[00:34:57] CHELSEY DONN: God 'I. Wish 'I knew. Vela, 'I. Either one of these more builder.

[00:35:04] TREY GERRALD: Very good.

[00:35:05] CHELSEY DONN: Woo.

[00:35:06] TREY GERRALD: Also, former President Barack Obama's catchphrase,

[00:35:09] CHELSEY DONN: Oh, okay. Yeah, that's true.

[00:35:12] TREY GERRALD: which Bob had A' spinoff with the exact same title as the original series

[00:35:21] CHELSEY DONN: Ooh, Villa. No.

[00:35:30] TREY GERRALD: No, that was wrong. Unfortunately, it was Bob the builder,

[00:35:34] CHELSEY DONN: Okay. All right. We're tied again. Two and two. All right.

[00:35:37] TREY GERRALD: which Bob had the longest running series.

[00:35:43] CHELSEY DONN: 'I. Builder. Oh, thank

[00:35:51] TREY GERRALD: right Bob, the builder currently has had 20 seasons, and Bob Vela, his longest stretch of seasons, he said multiple shows was 16 seasons.

[00:36:01] CHELSEY DONN: still A' lot.

[00:36:02] TREY GERRALD: So many, right? Like how many houses are you gonna redo?

[00:36:05] CHELSEY DONN: apparently A' lot. Geez.

[00:36:07] TREY GERRALD: Which Bob had A' partnership with Craftsman Tools.

[00:36:13] CHELSEY DONN: Ooh. Villa. Yes.

[00:36:22] TREY GERRALD: correct.

[00:36:23] CHELSEY DONN: Glad 'I got it right.

[00:36:24] TREY GERRALD: Which Bob has A' fraternal twin brother.

[00:36:28] CHELSEY DONN: Ooh, 'I. A'. Say builder, just cuz it's fun, but probably Villa. Oh, builder. I'm right.

[00:36:37] TREY GERRALD: You're right. So Bob, the builder's twin brother's name is Tom

[00:36:41] CHELSEY DONN: Tom's not A' builder, though.

[00:36:42] TREY GERRALD: 'I. Think Tom is A' Builder. 'I. Don't know. Actually, I've never seen Bob the builder,

[00:36:46] CHELSEY DONN: Me neither.

[00:36:47] TREY GERRALD: which Bob is A' cat lover, 'I.

[00:36:49] CHELSEY DONN: Ooh. Hmm. B? No. Okay. Builder. All right.

[00:37:00] TREY GERRALD: Unfortunately, that's

[00:37:01] CHELSEY DONN: Okay. That's A'. Great answer. All right.

[00:37:04] TREY GERRALD: So the very first episode of Bob the builder is about Bob's kitty cat.

[00:37:09] CHELSEY DONN: Mm. Okay. Is Bob like really strong? 'I 'I. Think

[00:37:14] TREY GERRALD: Listeners call in and tell

[00:37:15] CHELSEY DONN: A'. There's gone 'I. I'm trying to imagine what 'I don't know. All

[00:37:19] TREY GERRALD: Okay, we have two more questions and then we have our bonus round, which Bob is missing. A' finger.

[00:37:25] CHELSEY DONN: Ooh, Vila. Builders missing A' finger.

[00:37:35] TREY GERRALD: Unfortunately, Bob the builder only has four fingers on his hands.

[00:37:41] CHELSEY DONN: Both hands

[00:37:42] TREY GERRALD: Yeah.

[00:37:43] CHELSEY DONN: because of an accident or because the person that drew him drew him with four hands.

[00:37:47] TREY GERRALD: So in the original series, Bob, the builder, had four fingers, but in the spinoff, they updated the look and he then had five

[00:37:56] CHELSEY DONN: All right. 'I thought it'd be kind of cool if Bob Vila only had four fingers. 'I thought it'd be kind of A' gangster, but

[00:38:03] TREY GERRALD: Well, thank you. That's why 'I made that A'

[00:38:05] CHELSEY DONN: Yeah, that was A' Good one. That was A' Good one.

[00:38:07] TREY GERRALD: the final question before our bonus round.

[00:38:10] CHELSEY DONN: There's A' bonus. Okay.

[00:38:11] TREY GERRALD: Which Bob has A' wife named Wendy,

[00:38:16] CHELSEY DONN: Oh gee Villa. No.

[00:38:24] TREY GERRALD: unfortunately

that's A' wrong answer.

[00:38:27] CHELSEY DONN: All right. Five and five.

[00:38:29] TREY GERRALD: Villa's wife's name is Diane

[00:38:31] CHELSEY DONN: 'I didn't even know that Bob, the builder was married.

[00:38:34] TREY GERRALD: So Bob the builder, has A' female coworker named Wendy, who eventually over the 20 seasons, becomes A' love interest, and eventually becomes the

[00:38:43] CHELSEY DONN: wow. Okay. All

[00:38:45] TREY GERRALD: All right. so,

[00:38:46] CHELSEY DONN: I'm A' loser.

[00:38:47] TREY GERRALD: but wait, we have A' bonus round, so this is gonna be worth three points.

[00:38:52] CHELSEY DONN: Okay, but 'I don't lose points or do 'I lose three.

[00:38:56] TREY GERRALD: you won't lose

[00:38:56] CHELSEY DONN: 'I only have the ability to get ahead or stay failing.

[00:39:01] TREY GERRALD: So if you get this right, you will get three, which will make you A'

[00:39:05] CHELSEY DONN: A'. Winner, okay?

[00:39:06] TREY GERRALD: Okay. Are you ready? Yeah. Which Bob has their own line of tools.

[00:39:15] CHELSEY DONN: Oh my God. 'I, I'm gonna say builder cuz 'I feel like Villa A' would be the obvious. So I'm gonna say builder, I'm wrong.

[00:39:27] TREY GERRALD: So your bonus round was A' trick question. They both have their own line

[00:39:31] CHELSEY DONN: That's not fair. So 'I, nobody would guess Both.

[00:39:43] TREY GERRALD: Call me Joey. Oh cuz. 'I, incredulous, 'I.

[00:39:50] CHELSEY DONN: All right. 'I lost. Did you beat me? Let us know. 1 8 50 review. Zero.

[00:39:59] VOICEOVER: Review, That, Review.

[00:40:03] CHELSEY DONN: All right, we're back from that. 'I didn't feel roed because 'I lost Game break. 'I. The only

[00:40:13] TREY GERRALD: you. were even

[00:40:13] CHELSEY DONN: you. 'I really was 'I know. 'I was, and then you know, 'I questioned myself on A'. Few of those 'I really gotta go with your gut instinct. It's all right. Trey has come to play with these last two games. I'm not mad at it.

It's A' compliment to you, Trey that I'm sucking so badly. And with that in mind, is it time to hear the flip side?

[00:40:32] TREY GERRALD: Yes. 'I. Can't wait. A', right. Here we go. Tell

[00:40:35] CHELSEY DONN: All right, well we are gonna hear A' totally different story from Dana M who has written A'. Very positive five star review that three people found useful. It's A', little bit of A' departure from what we have just heard

[00:40:53] TREY GERRALD: Oh my God. 'I. Can't wait to hear it.

[00:40:55] CHELSEY DONN: well to hear the flip side, then you gotta join our Patreon Queen.

[00:41:00] TREY GERRALD: That's right. If you haven't joined us over there yet, then make today the day. Today is the day. Today is the day. Review That Review dot com slash patreon.

[00:41:12] CHELSEY DONN: join us for the opposite review as well as A' brand new round on the what? What Mego round.

[00:41:20] TREY GERRALD: Only available to members at Review That Review dot com slash patreon.

[00:41:27] CHELSEY DONN: That's right.

[00:41:28] TREY GERRALD: Well, we did A' Queen. That is another round on the r u an RQ Ferris Wheel of Bob Vila. Nope. Bob the builder. Nope, Joey. Oh.

[00:41:38] CHELSEY DONN: Nope, all of the above. Thank you for joining us today. If you like what you heard, please tell A' friend.

[00:41:45] TREY GERRALD: If you didn't like what you heard, please tell an enemy.

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[00:42:15] TREY GERRALD: And 'I am at Trey Gerrald.

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[00:42:39] TREY GERRALD: That's not what 'I was expecting. 'I thought it would be like A' photo shoot, like the winter where we're all in denim. And to find out what made ChelseyBD say

[00:42:47] CHELSEY DONN: 'I 'I also totally believe that Dana has A' cat, cuz Dana seems very cat-like in her personality. Ra, you know,

[00:42:57] TREY GERRALD: Then you know what to do by now. And remember,

[00:43:02] CHELSEY DONN: A'.

[00:43:04] TREY GERRALD: gender nonspecific Queen nyc. Handyman Handyman nyc. Wow. Nyc Wow. Handyman nyc. Bye.

[00:43:12] CHELSEY DONN: Bye. Oh my God.

[00:43:15] TREY GERRALD: Oh my God.

Review That Review is an independent podcast. Certain names have been redacted or changed to protect the guilty. Executive produced by Trey Gerrald and Chelsey Donn with editing and sound designed by me with voiceover talents by Eva Kaminsky. Our cover art was designed by LogoVora and our theme song was written by Joe Kinosian and sung by Natalie Weiss.

[00:43:35] CHELSEY DONN: You know, 'I just realized that 'I was getting record. Ralph and Bob the builder confused in my head cuz 'I think that there's like A', there's something maybe where record Ralph and Bob the builder, 'I. Are together in like A' Pixar show that 'I watched with the

[00:43:50] TREY GERRALD: maybe

[00:43:50] CHELSEY DONN: Maybe in record. Ralph is record Ralph in Bob the builder.

Cuz Bob the builder is like the little, like, I'm nice, I'm Bob the builder. 'I got A' little hat on, right? And then record Ralph is like, 'I record big,

[00:44:02] TREY GERRALD: don't know. 'I don't know the whole universe, but that sounds very possible.

[00:44:06] CHELSEY DONN: does not sound right. So maybe 'I did so bad on the game because 'I had record Ralph

[00:44:10] TREY GERRALD: That's probably what it is.

[00:44:11] CHELSEY DONN: That's why. Oh man,

[00:44:15] TREY GERRALD: hear, oh, watch.

[00:44:22] CHELSEY DONN: listen, the frustration is real. What can 'I say?

[00:44:25] TREY GERRALD: Oh, thank you for going there.

[00:44:27] CHELSEY DONN: You're welcome.