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TRANSCRIPT of Episode 112: "Guest of Honor: Mac Mart!"

Review That Review with Chelsey Donn & Trey Gerrald
Episode 112: "Guest of Honor: Mac Mart!"


*Please pardon any and all spelling errors!

[00:00:00] THEME SONG: Everybody's got an opinion.

Every Californian and Virginian.

It's so hard to tell who to trust and who to ignore.

Someone's gotta settle the score.

Trey and Chelsey will help you choose!

Whose views win, which ones lose.

Online haters are comin' for you!

Baby, it's time to Review That Review!

[00:00:29] Chelsey Donn: Hello. Hello

[00:00:31] Trey Gerrald: Oh, hello and welcome to Review That Review. We are the podcast that is dedicated to reviewing.

[00:00:38] Chelsey Donn: reviews

[00:00:41] Trey Gerrald: That is Chelsey Donn,

[00:00:43] Chelsey Donn: and that is Trey Gerrald,

[00:00:45] Trey Gerrald: and when we come together, we form.

[00:00:48] VOICEOVER: The Review Queens.

[00:00:52] Chelsey Donn: and we are extra happy and excited today because this week we have A' very special.

[00:00:58] VOICEOVER: Guest of honor.

[00:01:06] Trey Gerrald: Yes. Oh my God. We're so thrilled every so often. We love to invite on A' special guest of honor to share some of their experiences dealing with online reviews from their unique 'I. Position,

[00:01:18] Chelsey Donn: With their expertise, we have them Donn their Review, Queen crowns, and help us inspect an online review.

[00:01:26] Trey Gerrald: and today we have the Mac and Cheese Queens of Philadelphia, the renowned Mack Mart sisters, Marty and Pamela.

[00:01:36] Chelsey Donn: 'I have known the beautiful Pamela Jane since we were eight years old. 'I affectionately refer to her as PJ or pge. You will likely hear me refer to her that way. Throughout this episode, PJ Marty and 'I have always bonded over of love of good food. So it's such A' delight to see them both soar and make A' career out of bringing comfort food to the masses.

With Mac Mar 'I could cove over these two Queens Trey. Can you let our listeners know A' little bit more about the inspirational work of our gorgeous mac and cheese Queens.

[00:02:09] Trey Gerrald: It'd be an honor. Okay, so Mac Mart's tagline, nacho Mama's Mac is Philadelphia's first Mac and Cheesery Mac Mart debuted on the streets of Drexel's campus in the winter of 2013. Shortly after opening, Marty enlisted her sister, Pamela or PJ or pge, and then her, then boyfriend, now current husband Garrett, to complete the Mac Mart team.

Mac Mart's bright pink food truck, found instant success popping up at night markets, food festivals and private affairs. Catering for the likes of, excuse me, Forbes Star Events. Philadelphia Eagles. Philadelphia. 76 says Wawa one of

[00:02:49] Chelsey Donn: love sports.

[00:02:50] Trey Gerrald: love sport games and many more. Now, they've also appeared multiple times selling out on Q VVC with their famous ma.

[00:03:01] Chelsey Donn: That's right. And then in 2016, Mack Mart opened its first flagship store located in Rittenhouse, which is one of the most popular neighborhoods in Center City Philadelphia. If 'I do say so myself. Today with A' seven-year-old storefront and tens of thousands of social media followers, Mack Mart has just announced they are officially expanding with franchise locations nationwide, you guys.

So get ready. Okay. If your mouth is watering, you might just have A' Mac Mart near you soon. Yum. Yum, yum. At the time of this recording, Mac Mart has 343 Yelp reviews with an average rating. A' four and A' half outta five stars. Not too shabby. Trey, what do you

[00:03:42] Trey Gerrald: Holy moly. All right, so that was A' lot for the Mac Mart sisters to have to sit quietly and listen to their whole history. So without further ado, welcome the Mac Mart sisters, Marty and pj.

[00:03:55] Chelsey Donn: Woo. We are so happy to have you guys.

[00:03:58] Mac Mart Sisters: We're so excited. We're so excited in our closet.

[00:04:02] Chelsey Donn: So we wanted to talk to you. We're so excited to have you here because we don't often get to speak with people that have restaurants and businesses that are directly affected by these online reviews. And so can you just tell us A' little bit about how online reviews affect your business?

[00:04:19] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I actually don't even know if they do. Anymore. Anymore. Yeah, definitely, definitely has much less of an effect. Yeah. We used to get really wrecked about them, like really bad and like we'd call each other, do me A' favor, don't get on Yelp right now. Um, this is also going back like close to 10 years because now like you could write A' scathing review about me personally and I'll just be like they're having A' shitty day.

Yeah. Someone doesn't like me. Shocker. So.

[00:04:49] Chelsey Donn: queenly and totally the right approach and 'I think that that's true. 'I think it's because you guys have been around A' while that you've like calloused yourself to this experience. 'I mean 'I. Think that's the 'I. That's how I've gotten even doing the podcast. 'I think I've like 'I care less now because 'I 'I get it.

'I see it for what it is.

[00:05:07] Mac Mart Sisters: Right. Yeah.

[00:05:08] Trey Gerrald: you remember the very first review you got? Like, do you remember that moment?

[00:05:12] Mac Mart Sisters: We still know him. Yeah. We still know him. And he still, yeah, we 'I mean we were lucky. Our first review was, was A' Great review. Yeah. And he was A' Yelp back then. So it was like A' three page, like there were paragraphs and there were, you know, smiley bottom. Um, and we still A', great customer of ours, say we actually saw him last week.

Yeah. Just A' week ago. Um, but soon after that, the shitty one started rolling.

[00:05:35] Trey Gerrald: Right. It's definitely A' ying and A' Yang.

[00:05:37] Mac Mart Sisters: Yeah.

[00:05:38] Chelsey Donn: you guys ever reply to A' review and then regret the reply 'I?

[00:05:43] Mac Mart Sisters: No, no. 'I. 'I know, so we don't respond to men. Well, first and foremost, we don't respond to Yelp. We've 'I don't know if we've ever responded to Yelp simply because we didn't have our login back then. Mm-hmm. Like when we,

[00:05:55] Chelsey Donn: Hilarious.

[00:05:56] Mac Mart Sisters: well, like, and when we did, we also had A' login as like A' consumer side of things. So it would almost actually always get messed up.

So 'I don't know if other than the first year we were ever open, if we responded to Yelp, Google, we respond every, every review. Every review, but we respond with truths. So even if we're responding to A' negative review, it's always gonna be respectful and truthful, which sometimes comes off catty, 'I guess like, um, not caddy.

Marty has A'. Marty has A' certain tone, which is funny cause ChelseyBD who's known us forever, if she were ever around us, would kind of see that it's. It's switched. Mm-hmm. Like I'm now the nice sister and 'I. No, she, I'm going by what? What people,

[00:06:40] Chelsey Donn: Marty's A'. Little bit more spicy now. Marty used to be the nice sister when we were little.

[00:06:44] Mac Mart Sisters: Marty is A' hardened angry business owner. Yeah. But also like A'. Brilliant business owner. But we've gotten past the dough and we're like at the center of the Ew. Yeah. And I'm on my second album where 'I get to do what 'I want. Yeah, that's how 'I feel.

[00:07:03] Trey Gerrald: Do you remember when that switch happened?

[00:07:05] Mac Mart Sisters: probably like A'. 'I. Honestly, 'I would actually say A' lot of help.

More so for my sister. My 'I wouldn't even see the whole staff, but 'I would say my sister and, and and some of my husband 'I guess because they would see how torn 'I would get and how personal and 'I would take things. And so 'I think it was just them probably telling me so many times, like, This person's having A' bad day, or they don't even know how to write A' review constructively, even if they are right, like.

So 'I think the thing, if 'I may say that is the most, again, like now 'I don't even care. But like the thing that used to be most frustrating 'I think for Marty A', lot of it was people getting angry about things that weren't true false information. So like if you are getting A' container, that is actually the same container that you used to.

To get, but for whatever reason your memory is giving you A' whole different container. You write an entire review based on how closer we stuck. Cause we didn't tell them about the containers and it's smaller and it's more money and you're like, none, none, none. That's true. None of them. And it's like those are the ones that you can't really go back and forth cuz then you just sound like A', you know, like A' catty asshole.

When really it's like, I'm trying to find A' way though. Yeah, she '

[00:08:14] Chelsey Donn: I was gonna say 'I would respond. If 'I were A' business owner, that would definitely be one. 'I would respond to. 'I would try Trey and 'I always. We love A' reply from owner

[00:08:25] Trey Gerrald: the best part,

[00:08:25] Chelsey Donn: It's the best part. And we do think there's something so amazing about being able to skirt that line of being like, I'm gonna educate other people that are reading this person's review that this information is false, but I'm gonna do it in A' way.

That is so sweet and kind. And thank you so much for taking the time outta your day. And gee, 'I, do hope that you still come back and see us. But 'I just wanna clear it up in case there was any sort of confusion. 'I. This is really what's going on here. And when it's said in like such A' calm way, it completely shifts the power of the whole review.

It's A' game changer. So anyway, Marty, keep on replying. Okay.

[00:09:02] Trey Gerrald: Yeah, because we've found on the show many times, The power shifts so quickly when the owner is able to just come in, in A' very calm way and shift the narrative that almost makes negative reviews more impactful for the business because you then are on the side of the business,

[00:09:23] Chelsey Donn: A'. Hundred percent. Yeah. And of course Trey and 'I are, are like always on the side of the business, but we never know what the other person is gonna bring in review wise. And so there have been many times where Trey will read the review and I'll feel A' certain way, and then we hit that button, there's A' reply and all of A' sudden my opinion is completely shifted.

And 'I do think that that's the experience of the reader as well. For what it's worth.

[00:09:46] Mac Mart Sisters: we've had actually A' lot of people reach out cuz Marty's now taken to Instagram with these public service announcements. But 'I have to say though, the responses that we get, 'I don't know if I've ever read 'I. A' response from A' follower or A' Random person that wasn't in support of the business.

Yeah. Or what happened? Like, but you know why? It's very simple. If, if you follow these rules, if you're honest, you have nothing to hide. 'I.

[00:10:15] Trey Gerrald: Right

[00:10:15] Chelsey Donn: exactly.

[00:10:16] Mac Mart Sisters: And, and, and listen. We're not idiots in terms of like how we speak to people. We're not gonna write like, you're A' fucking idiot. You're A' liar. That's not how you responded to someone who's, who's spreading untruths about your hard work and your business.

If someone writes our container, switched here, here, or here or here, 'I can, you know, 'I can very graciously and respectfully right. Here's the thing. Here's all these examples, first of all, that are on our social media of what you're saying is untrue. And then also like we've used this company for 10 years.

Our customers are very aware, like if you just support what you are saying with the facts and truths, like we're never wrong. Yeah.

[00:10:53] Chelsey Donn: Agree. Yeah.

[00:10:54] Trey Gerrald: Wait, 'I, wanna 'I Have one more follow up here though. And, and we may, this may circle in through the whole episode here, but because you are business owners and you've created something that people truly love, how do you separate the emotion from like, that is not A' true statement and you are being upset and 'I feel like 'I need to correct that for the mass public without being emotional.

Like how do you do that?

[00:11:20] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I mean we are emotional. Like Yeah, but 'I think, 'I think because of, here's A' thing and we're both sensitive. We're Oh, we're, we're like jello. Like there, like besides being A' tough exterior, we're extremely sensitive. But 'I think we've, we've really been able to, because here's the thing, and I'm not gonna go on A' tangent about it, but we always, always said from the jump from the days on the truck, No matter who likes our food or who doesn't, they're going to have A' good experience.

And that was always, literally, if someone were to ask us like one of the first five thoughts we had about constructing this business and structuring it or whatnot, it would've been we're not chefs and we're not restaurateurs. So no matter what, someone's gonna come in. And even if you hate the product, we're gonna kill you with kindness.

We're gonna be cool, we're gonna play great music while you're in there, like you're gonna enjoy it. So at the end of the day, it's kind of like if someone's that nasty on the other side of the screen, that's just them. We've kind of learned, like 'I was in there when Joe Schmo got served his bowl and he's writing us the most aggressive review, like 'I was in there.

We were playing LL Cool J. We were jamming out, we were talking about how Bacon's good on everything. Like no way. He could this miserable leaving A' mac and cheese store. So we just chalk it up really to like the negativity is them the constructive feedback we can take. But if you're gonna be A' dick about it, that's on you bro.

[00:12:43] Trey Gerrald: really

[00:12:44] Mac Mart Sisters: Because when I've been to businesses and 'I, it could be from food to anything else, and I've had A' horrible experience with like really rude people. One of the go-tos that 'I used to have was 'I wanted to let them know 'I was never coming back. 'I wanted to let them know that 'I already know their boss, which was never true. 'I like 'I know the high. Yeah, exactly. And then 'I would, 'I would wanna be bitchy and then like leave letting them know that 'I, I'm better than them. Like in some, like, in some like of A' fight. But here's the great thing about now working in A' restaurant and dealing with that is that 'I, don't 'I know 'I haven't done that in like close to 15, 20 years because 'I know that as soon as 'I leave.

They're either laughing or we're like, like we give A' shit. Or like, oh, you know, 'I, you're talking, I'm so sorry. You know, even if they were nice to me, like that's what everybody does. So 'I, I'm never leaving and having them go, damn, you know what, 'I wish we got her number so we could call her and tell her she was right.

Like that never happens. Yeah. So I've learned that the people that are still doing what 'I used to do, They just 'I think they're idiots. They just don't know they're, and they don't think from any perspective except for their own, which is normally the worst. 'I.

[00:14:01] Trey Gerrald: heard.

[00:14:02] Chelsey Donn: That's, yeah, that's the whole premise of this podcast. 'I think has like just, you know, get people to see reviews that aren't, that don't have businesses in that way. Cuz my, my opinion has totally shifted and the way that 'I would leave reviews has also shifted. So 'I, get that

[00:14:17] Mac Mart Sisters: Can 'I add one more thing without being A' mute? Sorry, 'I. We never about to add this. 'I. Don't 'I. Don't think so. 'I usually know when we are, but 'I don't think cause this is random. So honest to God, 'I don't think any, any negative review would bother me. Not that it does, but would bother me in the slightest back then if everybody that was about to trash the suit or trash the lighting or we were too clean, too dirty, whatever it was, which by the way, we called to clean before in A', almost great.

But 'I started the review the way that 'I talk to people and act, which is listen. 'I already know that this isn't for everybody. 'I wanted to give it A' shot. 'I thought it was so disgusting. But 'I think that like if you love gooey mac and cheese, you might love it. As opposed to people that are angry.

Yeah, they're mad at you for not making macaroni and cheese that they like and they wanna be A' apart. It's just like, it doesn't even need to be A' very like, uh, refined critique. You can be like, dude, it made me wanna vomit, but just right at the top or at the bottom before you leave that like 'I. But that doesn't mean everybody will, like, I'm not trying to tell you not to give this, not to patronize this business.

I'm just telling you that 'I thought it was gross. Do you know what 'I mean? Like

[00:15:32] Trey Gerrald: Yes.

[00:15:32] Chelsey Donn: compliment sandwich 'I think every negative review should have A' compliment sandwich,

[00:15:37] Mac Mart Sisters: Ah, all about

[00:15:38] Chelsey Donn: then I'm with you. And then 'I trust you. You know 'I trust you. 'I Trust that it wasn't your taste. And maybe it won't be mine, but maybe it will. And 'I love that. I'm gonna read the review and together with the Mac Mart sisters, we will break it down, rate the impact of the review and rate it on A' scale from zero to five crowns.

It's A', very regal process that we call.

[00:16:04] VOICEOVER: Assess, That, Kvetch.

[00:16:06] Trey Gerrald: Mac Mart Sisters, let's buckle into our food trucks and

[00:16:12] VOICEOVER: Review, That, Review.

[00:16:16] Chelsey Donn: Okay, so today 'I have brought in A' review that I'm pretty confident nobody here knows anything about, first of all, it's from A' new source. We've never used this on the show before, Trey it is, which is the home of all Nestle products. So like if you have something good or bad to say about A' Nestle product, you can go to and let the people over there know.

So I'm gonna be reading A' one star review for. Lean cuisine, Vermont, white cheddar, mac and cheese.

[00:16:58] Trey Gerrald: Oh no.

[00:16:59] Chelsey Donn: This is not your kids' macaroni and cheese. Ha ha. Our organic cava tapi pasta Donn. Don't know what that is. Maybe you guys know.

[00:17:09] Mac Mart Sisters: Swiveling.

[00:17:09] Chelsey Donn: Okay, it's


[00:17:12] Trey Gerrald: A', blink of the eye, they both went,

[00:17:15] Chelsey Donn: We're both like, let's kinda A'

[00:17:16] Trey Gerrald: that?

[00:17:16] Chelsey Donn: Okay. It's complimented with A' rich Vermont White cheddar cheese sauce one fork fill will have you believing in love at first bite. Feed your phenomenal with Vermont white cheddar, mac and cheese from Ling cuisine.

[00:17:32] Trey Gerrald: Okay.

[00:17:32] Chelsey Donn: Paige. Marty, we don't know anything about Ling cuisine, do we?

[00:17:36] Mac Mart Sisters: Um, yeah, 'I actually, 'I mean not about the company, but like, she's literally being facetious right now.

[00:17:42] Chelsey Donn: No, I'm, I'm being, I'm joking.

Like we've '

[00:17:44] Mac Mart Sisters: I. We lived on cuisines.

[00:17:46] Chelsey Donn: we leaned like, like when PJ and 'I first met, we were eight, but we were also on A' Diet, so

[00:17:52] Trey Gerrald: That's

[00:17:53] Chelsey Donn: we were also Onlin Cuisines. Honestly, this is the protein variety and the ingredients were much cleaner than 'I thought. 'I, 'I think that Link Cuisine has really like, Gotten back to the basics because it really is just cooked pasta, Vermont cheddar, skim milk, water, and then like 2% or less of rice starch, salt butter and spices.

So that 'I was

[00:18:16] Mac Mart Sisters: That's probably why it's gross.

[00:18:19] Chelsey Donn: maybe. Well, it is. It's lean cuisine. It's sort of like the opposite of Mac Mart. All right, so this review was written by Lizzie 2, 2, 4. As 'I mentioned, it is A' one star review. The subject is ruined by broccoli. was written two years ago. used to buy this all the time until 'I couldn't find it anymore.

'I. Ironically, anything 'I take A' liking to suddenly disappears off the shelves and either never comes back or comes back renewed and terrible. Whoever decided broccoli. Was A' good? Add-on. Obviously hates everyone but themselves words cannot explain how terrible of A' decision that was. Microwave broccoli is the absolute worst and it consumes everything. It is served with, including this nice and sweet mac and cheese. am super disappointed that my all time favorite Mac has been ruined by the addition of broccoli. If you wanted broccoli, just add it yourself. 'I. Don't recommend people add panko breadcrumbs and bacon bits to replicate Longhorn, mac and cheese.

'I added myself. The best thing is when it comes plain and you get to add whatever you want to it. 'I don't buy TV dinners to take away from it. It already came with just barely enough pasta. Now that they're broccoli, there's even less pasta and it all, it's like broccoli X. No, 'I do not. Recommend this product.

[00:20:31] Mac Mart Sisters: Thank you, Karen.

[00:20:33] Chelsey Donn: Lizzie.

[00:20:34] Trey Gerrald: A'. Beautiful reading. ChelseyBD.

[00:20:36] Chelsey Donn: Oh, thank you.

[00:20:37] Trey Gerrald: Wait, did they say x?

[00:20:39] Chelsey Donn: No 'I. Just read it that way cuz it was like at the bottom you could X off like 'I. You know, 'I recommend or 'I don't recommend, but it like felt like it went with A' review, like they really wanted us to see it.

[00:20:49] Mac Mart Sisters: Oh, 'I. Thought she was looking A'. Okay. Yeah, like an.

[00:20:53] Chelsey Donn: 'I do. Oh, no, no. It was like an X, like 'I checked that one.

[00:20:56] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I, like it

[00:20:57] Chelsey Donn: 'I do not

[00:20:58] Trey Gerrald: Wait, will you read the title of this product one more time? Does it say Broccoli Link Cuisine, Vermont Cheddar.

[00:21:05] Chelsey Donn: Very good question. Trey. Very astute. No, it's protein kick. Vermont, white cheddar, mac and cheese. Does not say

[00:21:13] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I would feel like it would be fiber if it were broccoli. Like if we're talking protein like 'I. Need some chicken there,

[00:21:19] Trey Gerrald: Well, it sounds like this is predominantly broccoli and they don't have it listed. 'I. Mean 'I. Guess there's an image.

[00:21:26] Chelsey Donn: There's no, there is an image and the image does not contain broccoli.

[00:21:31] Mac Mart Sisters: Wait, hold on. Hold on. I'm about to be on her side. Hold on. Did she buy A' product that didn't mention it or show A' picture of it? Like did she open up A'?

[00:21:42] Chelsey Donn: she is. What Lizzie would like us to understand is that they have bought this product for years. They have an intimate relationship with it. They add their own Panko, they add their own bacon. Right. They, they have A' system by which they eat this product, and then they all of A' sudden got it and it was ruined by broccoli, which 'I is not advertised.

[00:22:05] Mac Mart Sisters: That's 'I mean. That's, that's, that's on Lean Cuisine.

[00:22:09] Trey Gerrald: Right. Wait, 'I have A' question. Have you guys ever altered any of your recipes in the time that you've been preparing?

[00:22:17] Mac Mart Sisters: Yeah, but we're usually fairly open about it. We stay within the substitution realm, like, yeah, oh, they're out of mozzarella this week. Let's pick another mild cheese. Yeah. Like especially during Covid, we, we had to kind of work with anything, what was available, but we also always write posts to make sure that no one like, just to review about it.

We need cover our, yeah.

[00:22:37] Chelsey Donn: Right. So this was written during Covid 'I. This was written two years ago. So sort of at the height of Covid Donn. Don't know if that had anything to do with it. Was there like A', lack of pasta at one point?

[00:22:48] Trey Gerrald: Well, it's lean cuisine, don't you think? In order to be like lower on the calories, it has to be A', smaller serving. That was like what 'I was

[00:22:56] Chelsey Donn: 'I think that what Lizzie's saying is like, it was already, you know, not A', lot of pasta. And now we had A' broccoli and now there's like two noodles and A' broccoli. Like are they trying to bulk it up?

[00:23:08] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I, just don't understand the actual concept. Did she buy A' box of bro, like chicken, like broccoli Alfredo, or did she buy just mac and cheese

[00:23:17] Trey Gerrald: 'I.

[00:23:18] Chelsey Donn: Well that is A'. Very good note.

[00:23:20] Mac Mart Sisters: like this one? We go to the store. 'I, grab A' Lean Cuisine out of the taste, and it's just A' cap with olive oil. 'I get home, 'I open it. There's meatball, no shrimps,

[00:23:31] Trey Gerrald: Right. That's what it sounds like.

[00:23:35] Mac Mart Sisters: Why is it shred? Yeah. Nothing making sense here. It's so 'I. Don't truly understand to the heart. Lizzie's A' review might.

[00:23:44] Chelsey Donn: Oh,

[00:23:45] Mac Mart Sisters: Yeah.

[00:23:46] Trey Gerrald: Nope. But 'I Hear that as

[00:23:49] Chelsey Donn: share my screen with you guys. Can you see my screen? So this is the product that Lizzie wrote the review under.

[00:23:56] Trey Gerrald: Oh, come on.

[00:23:58] Mac Mart Sisters: What Broccoli just showed up in

[00:23:59] Trey Gerrald: Yeah, that's A' glaring

[00:24:01] Chelsey Donn: This is what Lizzie is claiming.

[00:24:03] Mac Mart Sisters: The pj, it says this meatless dish is delicious, deliciously cheesy, and has 18 grams of protein. Broccoli is not measured. Ones here,

[00:24:10] Trey Gerrald: No, nowhere and not

in the picture

[00:24:12] Mac Mart Sisters: there's no green even in the marketing or branding. So here's my difference with Lizzie is 'I would've gone on and left A' review to Lean Cuisine about marketing and transparency with your customers like and like allergens.


[00:24:30] Chelsey Donn: but that's what Lizzie's doing. Just to be clear, because this is goodness. Lean Cuisine is A' Nestle


[00:24:38] Mac Mart Sisters: it. 'I would be interested to know if she picked up A' Different box and, and cooked like A' different. There's, listen, there's Weight Watchers, there's Healthy Choice. There's Lin Cuisine, there's Lin Cuisine Protein Plus there's, there's just cuisine like 'I. Think they just recently took away The Lean.

The Lean, yeah. There's like all these different things out and I'm like, you might have just picked up the wrong box. Yeah, I'm, I'm.

[00:24:59] Chelsey Donn: So that goes to the like truthful, shady, 'I guess or like, do we trust this person,


[00:25:05] Mac Mart Sisters: put 'I would've also covered my ass as the the reviewer and put up A' picture of A' Mac with broccoli. Yes.

[00:25:10] Trey Gerrald: Yes, thank you. Yes. 'I was gonna say that too. 'I 'I. Wish there was A' photo 'I. Want to see how little noodles there are? How many pieces of broccoli wait, 'I have A'? Little question here about Lizzie. So Lizzie goes on. Onto this whole thing about just adding things yourself. To me, 'I feel the opposite. 'I don't want to have to purchase fresh broccoli.

'I don't wanna have to buy bacon. Cook it, chop it up. 'I don't want to have A' box of Panko crust, like 'I want to buy the thing and heat it.

[00:25:41] Mac Mart Sisters: Yeah, 'I.

[00:25:42] Trey Gerrald: So that was surprising to me. But 'I cannot get over how It seems like there was no understanding that there would be broccoli here and that there's broccoli.

[00:25:52] Chelsey Donn: broccoli that has to be jarring. So my question to you guys, cuz 'I did, after 'I found this review, 'I went and 'I looked at the Mac Mart menu, and 'I did notice that none of your dishes had broccoli and 'I was wondering if that was intentional. Can you talk about that?

[00:26:05] Mac Mart Sisters: yes. It is very intentional. It's because broccoli smells like A' giant fart.

[00:26:11] Chelsey Donn: Yes.

[00:26:12] Mac Mart Sisters: We cook it in our restaurant of which we did for the last year and A' half for, uh, A' school lunch program. You have to see how Marty cooked. This broccoli got A' stalk of broccoli, A' raw stalk. Right before, right after she packed the Mac, right before she litted it and put it out.

You'd see your dunking water and hot water. But here's the thing. 'I bury in Mac, 'I would bury it cause broccoli. Listen, 'I love broccoli. 'I. 'I could eat literally like A', brut of broccoli. Like I'm good. Yeah. With garlic and olive oil and butter, but, but

[00:26:47] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. Wasn't prepared appropriately.

[00:26:49] Mac Mart Sisters: yeah. But the thing is, is it's not, we used to have A', Brock and cheese, please.

That was the bowl. Brock and cheese please. A'. Really delicious broccoli cheddar thing. But at the end of the day, you actually opened my eyes to A'. Most every time we would cook it for the school, whether we cooked it diligently or or A'. Really quick way 'I like to do it smells like A' fart. Your restaurants gonna smell like someone's butt hole.


[00:27:10] Trey Gerrald: Right.

[00:27:11] Mac Mart Sisters: My entire house smells like A' fart. It does.

[00:27:13] Trey Gerrald: Yeah. Wait, ChelseyBD, remember at the beginning of this, you read the ingredients? It did not say broccoli.

[00:27:18] Chelsey Donn: Oh, that's right.

[00:27:20] Mac Mart Sisters: that's why 'I thinking she didn't put up the right box.

[00:27:22] Trey Gerrald: That's what I'm wondering too,

[00:27:24] Mac Mart Sisters: This is on Wednesday my sister's.

[00:27:26] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. They're

[00:27:27] Mac Mart Sisters: now we need A' address. We need to send her A' fruit basket with no problem.

[00:27:32] Trey Gerrald: with no

[00:27:33] Chelsey Donn: No broccoli.

[00:27:34] Mac Mart Sisters: cheese, fruit basket.

[00:27:36] Chelsey Donn: And she is everything on the side. Do we think that Lizzie's one of those people that when they like get dishes, like they need things to be separated, like they probably wouldn't like A', catch swirl. That would be like, whoa, it could infiltrate, you know?

[00:27:51] Mac Mart Sisters: don't understand those people. 'I think all foods should be eaten together. And put Better yet, put it in A' bowl and mix it up. Layer it.

[00:27:59] Trey Gerrald: have to mix everything. Yes, me too.

[00:28:01] Chelsey Donn: 'I like, well, 'I like to mix it so that 'I have like the crunch and the bite. The thi 'I need the all the

[00:28:06] Trey Gerrald: 'I need every flavor. Yes.

[00:28:07] Mac Mart Sisters: The best example of that is like Thanksgiving dinner. You cannot take A' bite of one thing without everything else on that dinner on that plate. Yeah. 'I wonder what Lizzie says about Thanksgiving dinner.

[00:28:17] Chelsey Donn: The stuffing cannot touch the cranberry sauce or else it tastes like cranberry.

[00:28:24] Trey Gerrald: mean the value here for me, 'I feel like is if you're gonna spell out the ingredients and if the literal box has A' blown up image of the product, that better be what's inside 'I. So I'm really sitting on either, Lizzie has picked up the wrong box because there's 800 varieties of Lean Cuisine, cuisine, protein, protein, pl, whatever, whatever 'I think the spelling grammar is pretty strong, right?

[00:28:47] Chelsey Donn: There were A' couple mistakes in there. 'I really think Lizzie got ahead of herself. Uh, you know, she was very emotional and so, and she almost, you know, stuck the landing. But in the end there, she, she did have A', couple grammatical errors, little words here and there. She got herself all kerfuffle, maybe like an A' minus.

[00:29:07] Trey Gerrald: Yes. The only shady factor for me was this. There was A', lot of real estate spent on Lizzie explaining the history of their life. When they fall in love with something, it always disappears. And here 'I Am yet again, lean

[00:29:19] Chelsey Donn: for bringing that up.

[00:29:20] Trey Gerrald: It's so much

[00:29:21] Mac Mart Sisters: It's like A' slip, but like she.

[00:29:27] Trey Gerrald: Yes. Yes,

[00:29:28] Chelsey Donn: Exactly. I'm so thank you so much for bringing that up. Trey, 'I forgot to talk about that. Like 'I love when reviewers give us A' little like peek into their personal life. So what do we think about Lizzie based on the fact that this is their philosophy of life?

[00:29:45] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I. Think Lizzy has A' lot more going on and that's probably why she took it out on the broccoli, mac and cheese

[00:29:50] Trey Gerrald: me too. Yeah.

[00:29:52] Mac Mart Sisters: Lizzy couldn't leave her house to see her shrink and so decided to look inward. Yeah. And by doing so, she took it out on dinner. Mm-hmm.

[00:30:00] Chelsey Donn: right. 'I agree.

[00:30:01] Mac Mart Sisters: Yeah. 'I know someone once that wrote A' review, 'I, think it was actually to Nabisco about their box of cookies.

This is years ago about their box of cookies, how much they learned. They've been, no, ed, ed told me this years ago about how much they love these cookies and they've been at these parties and these and the party cookies. And then the last box was just subpar cookies of the same, like we're talking like warriors.


[00:30:28] Chelsey Donn: Yeah.

[00:30:28] Mac Mart Sisters: Wrote that in. They've been sending him Oreos all the time. So I'm kind of hoping that every time Lizzie gets back to her apartment by herself and she needs to feed her cat, she's, then Why is there another box of macaroni

[00:30:48] Chelsey Donn: Maybe.

[00:30:49] Mac Mart Sisters: A' broccoli though?

[00:30:50] Chelsey Donn: Oh my God. Maybe Lizzie has like an ulterior motive and

[00:30:54] Mac Mart Sisters: Oh.

[00:30:54] Chelsey Donn: trying to get Freeling cuisine.

[00:30:56] Mac Mart Sisters: Smart. That is

[00:30:57] Trey Gerrald: Well, all of that Aita adds to the humor, entertainment of the review for me. Okay, so finally, here we go. So like there's confusion here about was the product misleading or was Lizzie confused? What? What do we think the impact of this review is for the product? Is there A' deal breaking moment for you or not?

[00:31:17] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I, don't listen to anybody. Yeah. 'I don't understand. 'I. Don't listen to anybody because things that 'I find truly delicious. 'I already know as I'm making it, that it's gonna gross someone else out. Like 'I wanna take potato chips, sit on my couch and dip 'em in ketchup. Some people hear that and they're like, what?

And I'm like, chip, which is basically A' cold french fry, right? So,

[00:31:38] Chelsey Donn: right.


[00:31:41] Trey Gerrald: true.

[00:31:42] Mac Mart Sisters: catch. But like, so if 'I write A' review about how amazing it is,

[00:31:46] Chelsey Donn: Right?

[00:31:47] Mac Mart Sisters: why, why Listen to me. Who am 'I, like who is anybody? 'I, don't 'I, don't shit about your opinion unless 'I love you and I'm coming to you because 'I know maybe you specialize in something and you'll be able to gimme A' A' constructive review of what you had otherwise.


[00:32:03] Chelsey Donn: Is there any part of you that feels like I'm impacted in the sense that 'I don't trust Lean Cuisine? Maybe they're just gonna switch A' recipe on me and pull A' like wool over my eyes

[00:32:12] Mac Mart Sisters: Are

[00:32:12] Chelsey Donn: gonna be.

[00:32:13] Mac Mart Sisters: skin, milk and mac and cheese, 'I, 'I thought like and water, which is just another variation of skin Milk. A'. Yeah. 'I thought that 'I was just like keeping that. Yeah. Liz served its purpose in A' place and time in our lives. Absolutely. But now that we're adults that can make decisions for ourselves, like Li Cuisine really has no space in my, do you, do you remember those like kind of commercials?

It was like in the era of the herbal essence, like, oh, like, you

[00:32:41] Chelsey Donn: Oh yeah, the orgasm

[00:32:43] Mac Mart Sisters: nobody wanted to watch with their parents. Like you were leaving the room when A' sh commercial was on either way. It was in the same era when the girls were in their towels and they were in, and they were like, Last night, 'I had A' Chicken.

Chicken. Three crackers. Mm-hmm Four people. One sig, 10 A' glasses, A'. And then the girl's like and 'I had chicken rico laced with roasted vegetables and an herb cream sauce with A' mar drizzle. You had plastic chicken cuisine, you had plastic bag sauce.

[00:33:14] Chelsey Donn: And then, and then what was so funny about those commercials is the person that was like, and 'I ate asparagus with boiled air, you know, like that person would always look at the chicken piccata girl. Like, whoa, like ju, like all like judgy, like, ooh, okay. Like with your chicken piccata.

[00:33:31] Mac Mart Sisters: Freedom in the frozen aisle.

[00:33:34] Trey Gerrald: Yes, yes.

[00:33:35] Chelsey Donn: Freedom in the, oh my God. All right. Well, 'I, think we've given Lizzie A' fair shake. Do we think we're ready to crown Lizzie?

[00:33:44] Trey Gerrald: 'I could Crown


[00:33:46] Chelsey Donn: All right,

[00:33:47] Trey Gerrald: Okay. So ChelseyBD and Marty and PJ and 'I all have our own set of zero to five crown cards. In an effort to be fair and not influenced by one another, we will simultaneously reveal our ratings.

[00:34:00] VOICEOVER: The Queens are tabul. Waiting,

Total Score.

[00:34:07] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I might giving Lizzie A' five.

[00:34:10] Chelsey Donn: You are making

[00:34:11] Trey Gerrald: Oh.

[00:34:11] Chelsey Donn: Review. Queen. Whoa. Okay.

[00:34:13] Mac Mart Sisters: Is what keeps us laughing technically. 'I originally gave her zero. 'I,

[00:34:18] Chelsey Donn: Okay.

[00:34:19] Mac Mart Sisters: she should not have access to the internet. She learned how to text message. She's still looking for T nine. Where are you living? However, the fact that somebody 'I find it truly hilarious how some people have an experience like she ate the food, right?

She was there. She cooked that. She ate it. And then instead of like her being like, right 'I got A' shower, 'I gotta like get together for tomorrow. What am 'I? Okay. She was like, well now that I'm done, where's. like 'I. Thank God sometimes for people like Lizzie, cuz 'I get to be like, wow, 'I was like really serious about whatever, whatever. And like who gives A' shit? Yeah. Like look at Lizzie like she's losing her mind right now. And an entire like corporation that doesn't care. They don't care about Lizzie.

That's why Lizzie's review is still up next to the wrong product.

[00:35:17] Trey Gerrald: Right.

[00:35:18] Chelsey Donn: exactly.

[00:35:19] Mac Mart Sisters: Lizzie really cares about her review, and she would say to you today that she stands by that review and she doesn't want to hear shit from Lean Cuisine. So we need the Lizzies of the world because they keep the normal people like us.

That's with air quotes, laughing.

[00:35:38] Chelsey Donn: 'I. Love that 'I. Love that you're the Paula of the group and 'I think that we're giving Lizzie credit for giving us entertainment. Maybe it's the fact that like you have, you're A' mom and you're busy and you're like, you know what? Every once in A', while 'I need to hear from Lizzie. So 'I respect that.

Five. Marty, why did you, why did you go with two crowns?

[00:35:57] Mac Mart Sisters: she's called the nice sister nowadays.

[00:35:59] Chelsey Donn: Exactly.

[00:36:00] Mac Mart Sisters: full 'I. First of all, 'I, think it's ridiculous. 'I. 'I. Wish 'I had enough time to write A' Ridiculous. First of all, 'I Wish 'I had enough time to make A' Lean Cuisine. Now you have time to make A' Lean Cuisine. Sit down and eat it and then write A' novel on why someone else shouldn't eat the wrong box 'I 'I. My, everything in my life nowadays comes down to time, and I'm the biggest complainer that 'I have none. And yet 'I have so much. It's A' weird. It's A' very weird. It is, yeah. It is. A' weird and it sometimes feels false and it sometimes feels true, but my thing is, is like 'I don't have time for dumb anymore.

'I asked her to watch A' scary movie with me A' couple months ago. 'I was like, dude, it was so good. You're gonna love it. She turned to me without missing A' beat and she's like, 'I don't have time to be scared.

[00:36:55] Chelsey Donn: 'I. Get that. Marty. I'm with you. 'I, don't 'I die to be scared. 'I can't be derailed by this movie.

[00:37:01] Mac Mart Sisters: do you know? How many emotions it takes to pull myself

[00:37:04] Chelsey Donn: kidding? 'I got enough cortisol going through my veins at all times. 'I don't need that.

[00:37:09] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I? Am already scared enough of this

[00:37:10] Chelsey Donn: Yes, I'm scared enough of

[00:37:12] Mac Mart Sisters: down to it. Fair enough.

[00:37:14] Chelsey Donn: Well, I'm with you Marty and Trey is with you, PJ, on that, on that front.

[00:37:18] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I.

[00:37:19] Chelsey Donn: Trey, you went with one and A' half crowns. 'I went with two crowns. Why did you do one and A' half,

[00:37:23] Trey Gerrald: Literally for what both of y'all have just said. Like to me, 'I think the only points go to the humor. 'I. 'I was entertained. 'I think Lizzie is very funny. 'I would be curious to hear their takes on other things, but 'I think either Lizzie 'I think Lizzie had to have made A' mistake and picked up the wrong product because they would have to include any detail that there's broccoli, but it was funny.

And A' great conversation. So 'I said one and A', half ChelseyBD. Why did you say two?

[00:37:47] Chelsey Donn: Very similar reasons. 'I mean, like 'I said, 'I. You know, you, we read so many reviews and so many are just like dulls doorknobs. So to have anyone that has any kind of personality, 'I gotta give like at least A' couple crowns for that. But 'I agree with what everyone's saying. 'I think it's possible that Lizzie wrote this review under the wrong category.

And so 'I couldn't really give them more than that. They also weren't perfect in spelling and they had A'. Lot of. Personal issues going on that 'I think were outside of the realm of the Lean Cuisine and what they could offer Lizzie in terms of helping her with her issues.

So that

[00:38:21] Mac Mart Sisters: off before she even opened the box.

[00:38:23] Chelsey Donn: exactly, yes. So that was why 'I went with two crowns

[00:38:29] Trey Gerrald: Funny review. ChelseyBD. Good. Find

[00:38:31] Chelsey Donn: God we had you to know what, what was the kind of pasta called?

[00:38:35] Mac Mart Sisters: A'.

[00:38:36] Chelsey Donn: Co. See, look at the way she says it with such confidence.

[00:38:40] Mac Mart Sisters: Oh, our wrist sticks. Wanna see our wrist sticks?

[00:38:43] Trey Gerrald: Do you have

[00:38:43] Chelsey Donn: Oh yeah, that's right. You told me about your wrist sticks. So they have A' macaroni, like just like one macaroni on their their wrist. But it does kinda look like A'

[00:38:52] Trey Gerrald: Oh, it does. Look at that.

[00:38:54] Chelsey Donn: But you know, 'I.

[00:38:56] VOICEOVER: There is A' reply.

[00:38:57] Mac Mart Sisters: There's more.

[00:38:58] Chelsey Donn: There actually is A' reply, which means that Nestle did take the time to get back to Lizzie, and this is what Nestle had to say. It is responded by A' Ling cuisine brand ambassador. We haven't added broccoli to this meal, so we'd like to learn more. an email from us soon.

[00:39:27] Mac Mart Sisters: Here's what happened. We are like, one year into Covid is off ast. She's ever leaving home and she's A' stone eating that mac cheese broccoli in it.

[00:39:42] Chelsey Donn: Oh my God. Pj, does that change your opinion at all? Or is, is, uh, Lizzie still A'? Review? Queen,

[00:39:48] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I gotta give the review. She needs A' guys.

[00:39:51] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. She needs A' win. You're right. You're, you're right. She does need A' win. You're right pj. You might be breaking generations dress generation long cycles here by making Lizzie A'. Review. Queen.

What? What? A'. Mensch.

[00:40:05] Trey Gerrald: She probably just left it under the wrong product, right?

[00:40:08] Chelsey Donn: A'. Hundred percent.

[00:40:09] Mac Mart Sisters: yeah. Lindsey

[00:40:10] Chelsey Donn: 'I. Think 'I liked the high theory 'I. Think that that could actually be accurate,

[00:40:14] Mac Mart Sisters: Like the majority of things lately. Yeah. But also 'I. Think some poor intern was told to reply '

[00:40:21] Trey Gerrald: I know.

[00:40:22] Chelsey Donn: Right. Oh my God. That's

[00:40:24] Mac Mart Sisters: Am 'I moving up like I'm done getting salad. All right. We did not add product.

[00:40:31] Chelsey Donn: But 'I, they're like, but we're dying to know more. Right. They're like, if that happened,

[00:40:36] Mac Mart Sisters: the company getting A' little snark in there

[00:40:39] Chelsey Donn: A'. Little snark, but it's the right level of

snark. It's like, email us please. Wow. That's like quite disturbing. If somehow in the factory such A' error was

[00:40:50] Mac Mart Sisters: made it into A' Bowl.

[00:40:51] Chelsey Donn: we need to know, did you save the serial number?

We might have to bring back the whole batch. Oh my goodness. Well, that was so fun. Thank you for indulging us in being review

[00:41:00] Mac Mart Sisters: That was so fun. Was fun.

[00:41:02] Trey Gerrald: Let's take A' really quick break, and then when we come back we can dish A' little more.

[00:41:07] Chelsey Donn: Nice segue. Try. Love it. B r b.

[00:41:12] VOICEOVER: Hold your crown. We'll be right back.

[00:41:39] Trey Gerrald: It's game time in today's game made lovingly by ChelseyBD as titled, can you make this Whack Mac Slap? Can you.

[00:41:52] Chelsey Donn: Can you make that whack Mac slap? Okay.

[00:41:56] Mac Mart Sisters: She like knew right away.

[00:41:59] Chelsey Donn: With Here's the deal. With 30 seconds on the clock, PJ and Marty will take turns reinventing and elevating various whack max. If they successfully convince the Queens that their version of the Whack Mac slaps, they will get A' point. If their version of the Mac still sounds whack, they will earn no points for the round and the other player has A' chance to steal by activating their return of the Mac power.

So the player with the most points wins the game. Mario, pj, are you ready to make that whack Mac


[00:42:42] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I. Think so. Yeah. I've never felt

[00:42:46] Chelsey Donn: Okay. You'll be great.

[00:42:47] Mac Mart Sisters: everything that we do at home with Lean Cuisines already. Go

[00:42:50] Chelsey Donn: Okay, great. Exactly, exactly. All right.

[00:42:52] Trey Gerrald: All right. So Marty, we're first. You ready?

[00:42:55] Mac Mart Sisters: Yes.

[00:42:55] Trey Gerrald: Okay. So.

[00:42:56] VOICEOVER: 'I have prepared for you.

[00:42:57] Trey Gerrald: PB and J Mac and Cheese.

[00:43:02] VOICEOVER: Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

[00:43:05] Mac Mart Sisters: So this is actually something that's being sold right now. I've been told about this. They have this at Disney World. 'I actually don't know how we can use it, but gosh, this is terrible. 'I. If anything, maybe add Brie to it, then we're kind of tying in the fruit flavors. Well, the only way I'm thinking is you have to save it. If you add BRI or maybe like A' creamy, something to that it, you're basically just gonna Donn, don't know. That thing looks gross. 'I know.

[00:43:35] Chelsey Donn: well this is A' softball. It's gonna get grosser, so prepare to get more creative. All right. Try. Are we voting?

[00:43:40] Trey Gerrald: Slaps.

[00:43:41] Chelsey Donn: You think it's It's still whack. It's maybe.

[00:43:46] Trey Gerrald: Brie sounds good.

[00:43:47] Chelsey Donn: All right. 'I did. 'I wanted to give you an A' for effort, but 'I just feel like you're gonna do better as you like

[00:43:52] Mac Mart Sisters: It's okay.

[00:43:52] Chelsey Donn: game.

[00:43:53] Trey Gerrald: Okay, so Marty gets one point

[00:43:54] Chelsey Donn: Okay, great. Paige, this is us

[00:43:57] VOICEOVER: 'I have prepared for you.

[00:43:58] Chelsey Donn: Mac Shake. So how can you make this whack Mac slap?

[00:44:05] VOICEOVER: Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

[00:44:09] Mac Mart Sisters: So if 'I had A'.

[00:44:10] Chelsey Donn: Yeah.

[00:44:11] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I would drink it. No, 'I wouldn't. Okay, so here's what 'I would do. 'I would actually, what would 'I do with A' Mac when you tell me 'I down 'I blender. Oh, sauce, my God. Millions. You guys go through games. 'I would put it all in A' blender, make it cheesy sauce, and then pour it over noodles.

[00:44:33] Chelsey Donn: Ooh.

[00:44:34] Mac Mart Sisters: It would just be sweet.

[00:44:35] VOICEOVER: Three, two.

[00:44:37] Trey Gerrald: All right.

[00:44:38] Chelsey Donn: 'I. Think that that's A', that that's pretty good slaps way to make lemonade, add A' lemons. That was really good. So that was A'. Two points for pj. Alright, this is now Marty's next

[00:44:51] Mac Mart Sisters: No redemption.

[00:44:53] Trey Gerrald: okay, so Marty,

[00:44:54] VOICEOVER: 'I have prepared for you.

[00:44:55] Trey Gerrald: A', beet, carrot, and ginger, mac and cheese,

[00:45:00] VOICEOVER: Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

[00:45:03] Mac Mart Sisters: So I'm gonna just, I'm gonna go to the blender for A', lot of these, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna blend it back up and I'm gonna make A' better sauce, and then I'm gonna pour it over. So 'I would take the beets, the carrot, the gingers. I'm already kinda like asiany, balsamic, olive, oily. I'd make some sort of sauce.

I'd then throw in. Loads of good cheeses, melting down some heavy whipping cream, and then 'I throw it over. Some good

[00:45:30] VOICEOVER: 2, 1.

[00:45:32] Trey Gerrald: That's smart.

[00:45:34] Mac Mart Sisters: still sounds so gross.

[00:45:35] Trey Gerrald: I'm saying A' slap.

[00:45:36] Chelsey Donn: saying slaps. Here we go.

[00:45:40] VOICEOVER: prepared for you.

[00:45:40] Chelsey Donn: Spam sushi Mac.

[00:45:43] VOICEOVER: Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

[00:45:46] Mac Mart Sisters: Okay, so 'I would first of all take off that seaweed and 'I, chop it up and mix it in with some parsley, and that would come in later on as A' garnish.

[00:45:55] Chelsey Donn: Mm.

[00:45:55] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I would take all the mac and cheese, put it in A' bowl, put lots of different cheese on top, 'I, know that, and then 'I would take the spam and go right into the deep fryer.

[00:46:07] Chelsey Donn: Ooh.

[00:46:07] Mac Mart Sisters: And then I'd sprinkle some parsley weed on it, parsley weed, which is

[00:46:12] VOICEOVER: Three, two.

[00:46:16] Chelsey Donn: 'I. Think that

[00:46:17] Trey Gerrald: 'I, like 'I, like how creative that was. I'm gonna say slaps

[00:46:20] Chelsey Donn: That was good.

[00:46:21] Mac Mart Sisters: Need like A' few to get into it. Yeah. 'I also feeling like PJ's, getting the easier ones. Oh my. And 'I Love one. Oh really?

[00:46:28] Chelsey Donn: Okay, well, there's A' bonus round if you wanna engage

[00:46:31] Trey Gerrald: We're only one. We're only one point behind Marty,

[00:46:34] Chelsey Donn: And you're only one point behind at this point.

[00:46:36] Trey Gerrald: Okay, here we go. Marty

[00:46:38] VOICEOVER: 'I have prepared for you.

[00:46:39] Trey Gerrald: Mac and cheese, oat oatmeal.

[00:46:42] VOICEOVER: Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

[00:46:46] Mac Mart Sisters: Oh my Lord. 'I, you know what 'I would do? 'I would make some sort of grit type thing outta this. 'I got A' binder. 'I guess maybe. But 'I think what 'I would do here is just make it A', savory, creamy grit thing. Again, we're just gonna keep adding heavy whipping cream. Yeah, A'. Lot of nutty, salty cheeses.

Butter. Butter. Eventually. And you know what? We could even add bacon for like A' protein. A'. Little chewy, salty, fatty bite. Eventually we're gonna get A' consistency of like A'.

[00:47:13] VOICEOVER: two

[00:47:13] Mac Mart Sisters: yeah.

[00:47:14] Chelsey Donn: Oh, ooh.

[00:47:15] Trey Gerrald: Yeah,

'I. Actually that actually, you made that sound good. I'm saying

[00:47:18] Chelsey Donn: that slaps 'I. Try that. I'd eat that. I'm not gonna lie.

[00:47:21] Mac Mart Sisters: probably. What can be for dinner tonight?

[00:47:23] Chelsey Donn: All right, let's go. We gotta keep our win page.

[00:47:27] VOICEOVER: have prepared for you.

[00:47:28] Chelsey Donn: Pineapple, mac and cheese casserole.

[00:47:31] VOICEOVER: Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

[00:47:35] Mac Mart Sisters: So 'I have to be honest, this all doesn't actually sound that gross to me to begin with. Mm-hmm. However, um, 'I think this is where I'd probably add something salty like A', ham, um, or A' bacon, although I'm really. Um, and 'I. Think 'I would chop up A', bunch of ham, put it on top, put maybe like A', little gray air on top of that.

Mm-hmm. Breadcrumbs that have been pre fried and pop it in the oven. Yeah. Good to go.

[00:48:01] VOICEOVER: Three, two.

[00:48:02] Chelsey Donn: I'm getting hungry.

[00:48:05] Trey Gerrald: I'm gonna say slaps too, the ham.

[00:48:09] Chelsey Donn: was really good.

[00:48:10] Mac Mart Sisters: Let me like, side note on what she just created. She could also do like A', really great way on like pineapple pizza

[00:48:17] Chelsey Donn: Ooh. That's what 'I was thinking when she was saying ham.

[00:48:20] Mac Mart Sisters: Exactly. And 'I would like cut that up into squares. 'I would remold it with some ham, I'd bread it and I'd fry that shit. And you'd have like mac and cheese, pineapple pizza, squares,

[00:48:30] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. And especially if there was like A' nice cheese in the middle that was gonna give you that like,

[00:48:36] Mac Mart Sisters: ey, gooey.

[00:48:37] Chelsey Donn: gooey like mozzarella stick moment. Oh, 'I. Like that A' lot. Okay.

[00:48:42] VOICEOVER: 'I have prepared for you.

[00:48:43] Trey Gerrald: Sun dried tomato, caper raisin, and parsley, mac and cheese.

[00:48:50] Chelsey Donn: Made Famous by Drake?

[00:48:51] Mac Mart Sisters: Is this famous by joy.

[00:48:53] Chelsey Donn: Yes, this is, this is Drake's. There was A'. It split the internet.

[00:48:57] VOICEOVER: Two,, One,, GO!.

[00:48:59] Mac Mart Sisters: You just really need Italian pasta dish. So we're gonna add like some tomatoes to like take out the mac and cheese factor of this because 'I actually don't see how those flavors can be that bag together. And you just need to make it like in A', some fresh tomatoes. We're gonna add A', little sauce, maybe like A' little roasted chicken and A' little heavy cream, and make like A' vodka sauce out of all this.

[00:49:22] Chelsey Donn: Ooh,

[00:49:22] Mac Mart Sisters: be yummy. Yeah.

[00:49:25] Chelsey Donn: That

[00:49:25] Mac Mart Sisters: how, that's, that's the only with all that

[00:49:27] VOICEOVER: 1.

[00:49:29] Mac Mart Sisters: It's the only way.

[00:49:31] Trey Gerrald: I'm gonna say slaps.

[00:49:32] Chelsey Donn: that. That slaps. All right. Here we go. Next round.

[00:49:37] VOICEOVER: 'I have prepared for you.

[00:49:39] Chelsey Donn: Blueberry, Mac, pj, can you make this slap?

[00:49:43] VOICEOVER: Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

[00:49:46] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I. Don't eat that. Like that's the thing. Like this already doesn't sound bad cause to me, 'I hear, 'I hear gel 'I hear gel right away. So 'I think, knowing the way that we like to be super fat and like everything is like that, we probably add. 'I probably add A' can of condensed milk, sweet condensed milk, which is just, you know, delicious in, uh, some heavy cream.

Pop it in the oven, make A' custard.

[00:50:11] Chelsey Donn: Ooh. Oh my God.

[00:50:13] VOICEOVER: 2,

[00:50:14] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I like cream.

[00:50:16] Chelsey Donn: Slaps. Ooh, 'I would never, that 'I want to eat.

[00:50:21] Trey Gerrald: Okay. This is the last round.

[00:50:22] VOICEOVER: have prepared for you.

[00:50:24] Trey Gerrald: S'mores Mac.

[00:50:25] VOICEOVER: Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

[00:50:29] Mac Mart Sisters: Oh yeah. Um, doing the same thing. I'm dumping it on A', big bowl. I'm adding sugar so that I'm taking that cheese sauce from savory to sweet. I'm probably adding A', little evaporated milk, A', little dense milk, some whipped cream. And 'I am ooking it and I'm probably enjoying it. 'I have to be honest. Spoon on your couch?

Yeah, spoon on my couch.

[00:50:55] VOICEOVER: 2, 1.

[00:50:57] Mac Mart Sisters: There's not much. Yeah, there's not much you can do with some of these.

[00:51:01] Trey Gerrald: slaps.

[00:51:03] Chelsey Donn: Slaps. Okay. This is our last one, pj.

[00:51:06] Mac Mart Sisters: got this bill.

[00:51:07] Chelsey Donn: All right, here we

[00:51:08] VOICEOVER: 'I have prepared for you.

[00:51:09] Chelsey Donn: Cookies and cream. Mac and cheese.

[00:51:13] VOICEOVER: Two,, One,, GO!.

[00:51:16] Mac Mart Sisters: So 'I mean if you're giving me the dish that you're literally showing me on the screen, which is A' bowl of mac and cheese, surrounded by Oreos,

[00:51:23] Chelsey Donn: Yeah.

[00:51:23] Mac Mart Sisters: I'm literally Donn. Don't have to move between dinner and dessert. I'm gonna devour the insides of what 'I see, and then slowly sit back and just take off all the cookies. Nothing, nothing else needed here. Maybe A' glass of milk.

[00:51:41] VOICEOVER: Three, two.

[00:51:45] Chelsey Donn: Slaps of in ingenuity.

[00:51:48] Trey Gerrald: 'I think I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say whack cuz 'I feel like it's just gross. Donn don't wanna

[00:51:53] Chelsey Donn: Okay. Okay. Okay. So what that means is we have A' bonus round where both of you guys are gonna have A' chance to make this extra whack max lap to determine if there is in fact A' winner. So bonus round will start with Marty. What are you gonna do? To make this Mac whack, slap mac and cheese gelatin cake ring with Vienna sausages and A' ketchup

[00:52:20] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I am pulling it out. ChelseyBD.

[00:52:23] VOICEOVER: 3, 2, 2. One go.

[00:52:27] Mac Mart Sisters: First of all, gelatin cake rang. Can 'I see it? Can you scroll down? A', little 'I. Think they poured gelatin on top of mac and cheese. Yes. Just forming into A' mold. I'm feeding that to my worst enemy. That's how I'm making it better. I'm gonna watch someone who, 'I can't stand Mrs. Trench, pull that shit and eat it.

Fall at A' time. There's no way you couldn't pay me. In the hooky. In the hooky, the

[00:52:53] VOICEOVER: 3, 2, 1.

[00:52:57] Chelsey Donn: Okay, well that's fair. We could end it at A' Tie. Unless pj, you think that you can make A' case for how to make this whack Max Slap, this is the only chance 'I come outta A' winner. Otherwise, we're leaving this as A' tie.

[00:53:09] Mac Mart Sisters: So

[00:53:10] Chelsey Donn: You gonna do

[00:53:10] Mac Mart Sisters: should 'I start? Yeah.

[00:53:12] Chelsey Donn: try.

[00:53:13] Trey Gerrald: Here we go.

[00:53:14] VOICEOVER: Three,, Two,, One,,


[00:53:17] Mac Mart Sisters: gonna take all the ketchup off the top. I'm gonna put that entire disgusting blob in one big pot. I'm gonna melt it down until it's noodles and A' whole lot of liquid. Drain the liquid, add cheese back in, and those Vienna sausages and put the ketchup back on once

[00:53:34] Chelsey Donn: my God.

[00:53:36] Mac Mart Sisters: Slap.

[00:53:41] Trey Gerrald: Gallagher

[00:53:43] VOICEOVER: 2, 1.

[00:53:46] Trey Gerrald: 'I. Mean

[00:53:46] Chelsey Donn: 'I. Kinda

[00:53:47] Trey Gerrald: 'I. Think it's A'. Clear tie,

[00:53:50] Chelsey Donn: 'I. Think that slaps 'I mean, like the 'I 'I. Know that PJ's on is my teammate. Huh 'I do. But 'I will say, lemme just point out that the idea of reducing it down then draining out the gelatin liquid, rinsing it off and sort of like doing A' start over. But maintaining the integrity of that ketchup, which is from the original product.

'I. Think if you were on like A' cooking show, like that would totally be valid And 'I think you might be A' with, with the right Mac. March cheese mix. 'I. Don't know. 'I. Think pj. That was pretty good. 'I. Think PJ wins. I'm sorry, Marty.

[00:54:27] Trey Gerrald: You know what 'I think that both of you were really strong players in this game and 'I think together you're stronger as A' team, which is obviously why you are

[00:54:35] Chelsey Donn: The Mack Mart sisters honestly is so much better than 'I thought that was gonna be, you handle that like prose. Clearly you've been doing this A' while.

[00:54:43] Trey Gerrald: Well, this has been so much fun, and if you're listening and you cannot wait to get your mac and cheese on, then you must go check out at the Mac Mart on all of the socials. Visit their written house or Bethlehem, PA locations, or hello, excuse me, blink blank. Kiss. Kiss. You could open up your own Mac Mart franchise to do so.

Inquire at. Mac Mart

[00:55:09] Chelsey Donn: Now before we jump over to our Patreon, one final question. What is one piece of advice you'd give on how to handle online haters?

[00:55:19] Mac Mart Sisters: Don't.

[00:55:20] Chelsey Donn: Don't.

[00:55:20] Mac Mart Sisters: Don't line them. They're sad. Yeah. The internet is such A' sad place nowadays. Give them A' hug in your heart instead.

[00:55:28] Trey Gerrald: mm

[00:55:28] Mac Mart Sisters: Or send them to Mac Mart so they can have some good food and get over it. Yeah, yeah,

[00:55:33] Trey Gerrald: like that.

[00:55:34] Chelsey Donn: yeah.

[00:55:35] Mac Mart Sisters: Cut off their fucking fingers. So they can't! she.

[00:55:44] Chelsey Donn: Oh, she came out 'I. Love it.

[00:55:47] Mac Mart Sisters: Hi, 'I.

[00:55:48] Trey Gerrald: A' A'. Sense of humor, obviously. All right, well we did it Queens. That is another round on the Are You A' RQ Vienna. Sausage finger chopped off. Hearts hugging in the love world of mac and cheese with Oreos and gelatin Ferris

[00:56:03] Chelsey Donn: But never broccoli. Thank you Mack Mart sisters for joining us today, listener Queens. If you like what you heard, please tell A' friend.

[00:56:12] Trey Gerrald: If you did not like what you heard, please tell an enemy.

[00:56:16] Chelsey Donn: To support the production of our show, visit Review That Review dot com slash donate.

[00:56:21] Trey Gerrald: Hit up our voicemail box. Tell us your Mac recipes at 1 8 50 review zero.

[00:56:26] Chelsey Donn: Join our mailing list at Review That Review dot com.

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[00:56:33] Chelsey Donn: can follow the Mac Mart sisters at the Mac Mart. You can follow me at ChelseyBD.

[00:56:41] Trey Gerrald: and 'I am at Trey Gerrald. On this week's after show Pod, we are gonna be diving A' little bit deeper with the Mac Mart sisters as we rate and review Uhoh A' one star Yelp review four Mac Mart.

[00:56:54] Chelsey Donn: Woo.

[00:56:55] Trey Gerrald: We will decide on the after show who's gonna go head to head with ChelseyBD in an extra cheesy spin on the Meryl go-round,

[00:57:02] Chelsey Donn: So to find out what made the Mac Mart sisters say,

[00:57:06] Mac Mart Sisters: It's so stupid. I'll, I'll let, let A' little tiny, little tiny. This slide cause it's 2016, but if it was 2023 and we got this review, you might have to like give me drugs,

[00:57:19] Chelsey Donn: 'I.

[00:57:19] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I.

[00:57:20] Trey Gerrald: Then become A' member of our Patreon over at Review That Review dot com slash Patreon so that you can hear our weekly after show companion podcast. In the meantime, you must remember

[00:57:31] Chelsey Donn: Ignore the haters. Like the Mac Mart sisters said, you're A' Queen.

[00:57:36] Trey Gerrald: Jen, non-specific Queen. Stay cheesy. Bye.

[00:57:40] Chelsey Donn: Stay cheesy boy.

[00:57:42] Mac Mart Sisters: Thanks.

Review That Review is an independent podcast. Certain names have been redacted or changed to protect the guilty. Executive produced by Trey Gerrald and Chelsey Donn with editing and sound designed by me with voiceover talents by Eva Kaminsky. Our cover art was designed by LogoVora and our theme song was written by Joe Kinosian and sung by Natalie Weiss.

[00:58:01] Chelsey Donn: 'I have to say, Marty 'I thought 'I was throwing you A' lob with the peanut butter and jelly Mac. Because years ago, PJ and 'I were like 16 'I came to the house and you were the first person ever that told me to put A' piece of American cheese in between A' peanut butter and jelly sandwich and that it would taste good.

Yes, you did, and 'I did and it did.

[00:58:23] Mac Mart Sisters: Wait, wait, what? 'I.

[00:58:26] Chelsey Donn: You don't? Yes, you did. Yes you did. Do you remember this peach?

[00:58:32] Mac Mart Sisters: 'I. Let's be fair. ChelseyBD also thinks 'I wanna stole her camera

[00:58:36] Chelsey Donn: No. Hey, you had to bring it up. That was my mother. That wasn't even

[00:58:40] Trey Gerrald: 'I, even I've heard this story,

[00:58:44] Mac Mart Sisters: my back is burning. So 'I just need to lay down A' minute.

[00:58:48] Chelsey Donn: Okay, go lay down and we're gonna hop on over to the after show. Maybe PJ will play the game.