Review That Review with Chelsey Donn & Trey Gerrald
Episode 39: "Seattle's Gum Wall / RounderBum"
*Please Pardon any spelling errors!
THEME SONG: [00:00:00] Everybody's got an opinion.
Every Californian and Virginian.
It's so hard to tell who to trust and who to ignore.
Someone's gotta settle the score.
Trey and Chelsey will help you choose!
Whose views win, which ones lose.
Online haters are comin' for you!
Baby, it's time to Review That Review!
[00:00:30] Chelsey Donn: hi,
[00:00:31] Trey Gerrald: hello, welcome listeners to Review That Review the podcast dedicated to reviewing
[00:00:40] Chelsey Donn: Reviews! We're just like Siskel and Ebert only instead of reviewing cinematic masterpieces, we rate and review those hilarious scathing and sometimes suspicious online reviews.
[00:00:51] Trey Gerrald: that's Chelsey Donn,
[00:00:53] Chelsey Donn: And that's Trey Gerrald.
[00:00:55] Trey Gerrald: and together we are.
[00:00:57] VOICEOVER: The Review Queens!
[00:01:01] Trey Gerrald: To support the show while getting bonus content, including a members only after show podcast, visit our patreon at patreon.com/ReviewThatReview
[00:01:11] Trey Gerrald: Chelsey girl, how you doin?
[00:01:14] Chelsey Donn: I'm good. I mean, no major complaints swimming along through the day. I don't know. I don't really know where the day went today. You ever have one of those days where you're just like, Where to go. So I'm having a little bit of that feeling, but other than that, you know, pretty feeling pretty good. How are you doing?
[00:01:33] Trey Gerrald: I'm good. It's so interesting. I'm going to induct someone today for a, My Royal Highness, which is very much wrapped in what I've been doing the last few days. So I'm going to not share about it now so that I can fully dive in feeling unrestricted at the end of the episode, but my week's going well, you know it's still, um, winter up here and that's a lot of fun.
[00:01:57] Chelsey Donn: I know I was almost going to talk about how, like, I can't quite get the temperature. Right. Cause sometimes I feel like, oh, it's so hot. And sometimes I'm like, it's so cold. And then I was like, I shouldn't complain. Cause it's like 70 degrees here. So yeah.
[00:02:11] Trey Gerrald: but still, I mean, you're experiencing that.
[00:02:13] Chelsey Donn: Oh, thank you for validating and thank you for that nice little teaser at the top.
[00:02:17] Chelsey Donn: I mean, I'm going to be wondering the entire episode, what it is that that might be the theme. So thank you for that. Also for those of us who are not watching, Trey is wearing our Kvetcher hat. It's beautiful. It's a white Kvetcher hat with black stitching.
[00:02:33] Lodge A Complaint!
[00:02:33] Chelsey Donn: And so I was thinking, as I was looking at your Kvetcher hat that maybe, you know, we wanted to kvetch about things. So what do you think, trey, do you think we should?
[00:02:43] VOICEOVER: Lodge A Complaint.
[00:02:44] Trey Gerrald: I do I today would love to lodge a complaint against something. I'm very curious to get your input on because you are from New Jersey, Philadelly, Philadelly
[00:02:55] Chelsey Donn: Philadellyarea.
[00:02:56] Trey Gerrald: it Philadelphia and have since moved away. So I feel like you and I have the opposite experience of this today. I want to lodge a complaint against New Jersey's gas station attendants. New Jersey, I believe is the single state and our nation of the United States of America to not allow drivers to pump their own gas. You can't do it. They have- hire individual. To take the little gas nozzle, type in your zip code for your credit card, select the gas, pump it, and you are not allowed to touch it or get out of your car.
[00:03:32] Trey Gerrald: You get out of your car, they look at you like you're a crazy person. Like you're gonna do something violent. I did not grow up that way. I did not grow up in the state. So it's already weird. Cause I don't want to talk to people. I also have had to Google multiple times. Do you tip. The gas station attendants, or do you not?
[00:03:52] Trey Gerrald: I just want to pump my gas. Like I, it's not a difficult thing to do. And so I, sometimes I don't want to have to sit there for three minutes waiting on the person to come to the car in that amount of time I could be almost halfway through my entire transaction at the gas. Two,. It's frustrating to me also, it's been a snowy time of year and that's terrible.
[00:04:18] Trey Gerrald: They're freezing. They're not in good moods. I mean, I don't understand. I don't know what the pay rate for that job is, but that is a hard job. You are dealing with inclement weather every single day and you, no one is like luxuriating at the gas station. It really is an in and out, in and out fast, fast, fast paced.
[00:04:35] Trey Gerrald: So I just, I'm not into it. I don't understand what the point is. I also don't know what the general economic reason is. I don't know how much money that brings in revenues speaking, but I just think we need to get rid of them, because I don't think it's pleasant on either side, unless maybe you're like a hundred years old.
[00:04:57] Trey Gerrald: And that case you shouldn't be driving Chelsey. Tell me what your thoughts are. Cause I have a feeling you might have a different point of view.
[00:05:05] Chelsey Donn: You definitely came to the right person with this complaint. Try because I am armed with a lot of knowledge about this that I would love to share with you. So, first of all, The gas station attendants in New Jersey actually started after world war II.
[00:05:19] Trey Gerrald: How do you know this?
[00:05:21] Chelsey Donn: don't know, remember when I learned this, but I remember that it started, because veterans needed jobs and to be employed.
[00:05:28] Chelsey Donn: And so part of that initiative, New Jersey started implementing these gas station workers. So that is number one. Number two. Yeah. I grew up in New Jersey, but I went to middle school and high school in Philadelphia. I've been traumatized by this, on the reverse And usually I would remember to fill or have my gas filled rather before I believe New Jersey, but every once in a blue moon, I would drive all the way to school, 45 minutes away in traffic and everything. And I would need gas. Like I can not get home without gas and I could not feel. My gas tank. Like it was terribly embarrassing.
[00:06:08] Chelsey Donn: I actually didn't know how to do it. So I would have to ask a stranger if they could fill my tank. So I was at a disadvantage now. I obviously live in Los Angeles, so I fill my own tank now, and I know how to do. Thank God. Like that's a bit, that was a big deal for me when I learned how to do it. But I like it.
[00:06:27] Chelsey Donn: It's like a nice luxury when I go home and I'm like, oh, I don't even have to get out of the car. Like
[00:06:31] Trey Gerrald: I knew you were going to say I knew it.
[00:06:34] Chelsey Donn: Like, it's great. I mean, I don't have to touch the thing it's dirty, but I do agree that I feel bad for them. A lot of the times when they're just out there, especially in inclement weather, rain, snow.
[00:06:47] Chelsey Donn: And they're still having to get out there and do it. And I'm sure people aren't the nicest. So I hear you like that sucks, but yeah, I think it's a luxury. I imagine it's like anything else, you know, like what if you grow up somewhere you're used to it and if you don't you're you're not. So like, it's, it's weird to you and I totally hear you.
[00:07:04] Trey Gerrald: Anyone who has any information, please call in about this. We have two polarizing opinions, you know? that's the power of us as a team that we really, we received the world in drastically different ways.
[00:07:17] Chelsey Donn: And yet the same, you know, like we come full circle.
[00:07:20] Trey Gerrald: Alright. That's my complainant. Tell me, Chelsey, what want to Lodge A Complaint about.
[00:07:24] Chelsey Donn: Okay. You know what, um, I want a Lodge, A Complaint. Um, you know what, nevermind. I don't want to say that. No, no. Um, I want a Lodge, A Complaint about.
[00:07:34] Trey Gerrald: ...is this bit?
[00:07:36] Chelsey Donn: I shouldn't tell you, forget it. I'm not going to tell you. Wait, I want a lot. I know I went to Lodge A Complaint about it's stupid.
[00:07:44] Chelsey Donn: I'm not going to say that's what I'm lodging a complaint against Trey. We got to stop. you've gotten to the point of the conversation where you have said, I'm going to tell you something You're not allowed to back out at that point. Okay. You have to follow through. I can't stand it.
[00:08:03] Chelsey Donn: Like when someone's looking at a phone or something and they start laughing, it's hilarious. And then you go, what's so funny and they go nothing. What is wrong with you? What is, what is wrong with you? You're you're setting up a premise. You're you're you're at me with energy and excitement. About something you want to share and then you're not sharing, or you're coming at me with sadness and depression and like, I feel bad for you.
[00:08:34] Chelsey Donn: And then you don't want to tell me, and then I have to like fight with you for you to tell me. And we got to just stop now. Listen, I'm trying to get better about gossiping, right? It's against my religion, literally and figuratively, or literally in. And I don't like to do it. So sometimes I will censor myself, if I feel like I'm starting to talk badly about somebody and then I'll be like, you know what?
[00:09:00] Chelsey Donn: I don't want to say that. But if I have that thought, I at least have the courtesy to like segway or lie. I'm not going to make it the other person's responsibility that I had to self censor. You know what I mean? Like if I'm talking to you about something and I'm like, and then like, she just. It doesn't matter what she did, the point is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[00:09:21] Chelsey Donn: At least I'm continuing on the conversation. Like maybe I'm censoring myself a little bit, but I'm like pushing the ball forward. I just hate it. Do you have this situation with.
[00:09:32] Trey Gerrald: Yeah. Well, I think that what is the trigger for me over here is when I feel like someone is beginning to say something, but they want me to pull it out of them so that they can, um, they can be innocent and they experience,
[00:09:47] Chelsey Donn: yes.
[00:09:48] Trey Gerrald: sometimes it bothers me when I feel like it's just all for show or like, it's like,
[00:09:54] Chelsey Donn: I shouldn't say that this.
[00:09:57] Trey Gerrald: Yes. It reminds me of like, I think it's an Ellen degenerates standup thing from before she had a show and was canceled where it's like, anytime someone's response to, um, hi, how are ya? Anytime someone says fine. It's like,
[00:10:13] Trey Gerrald: Oh, I
[00:10:14] Trey Gerrald: I don't want to ask what's going on. Just say you're good. like, don't give me fine.
[00:10:21] Chelsey Donn: I know
[00:10:22] Trey Gerrald: But then back to the phone thing, when someone's laughing at their phone and you're like, what? And they're like, Oh no, That is like instantly on the playground at recess in elementary school. When you're excluded from the game,
[00:10:35] Chelsey Donn: I know.
[00:10:36] Trey Gerrald: can't see this.
[00:10:37] Chelsey Donn: is not for you. This joke is, for other people that get picked before you in Dodge ball.
[00:10:43] Trey Gerrald: well I guess we have similarities when it comes to this, but not gas. great. Well, that was fun. Thank you for sharing that complaint. Coming from different points of view is why don't we use that to segue into some online reviews. What are your third Google?
[00:10:58] Chelsey Donn: I think that would be the perfect segue. Good idea. Let's do that. As you know, we are your trustee Review! Queens. We each bring in a review from the internet that we feel needs to be inspected.
[00:11:10] Trey Gerrald: We read each other, the Review! then we break it down together and we rate the impact of the review on a scale from one to five crowns. It's a very Regal process that we love to call
[00:11:23] VOICEOVER: Assess That Kvetch.
[00:11:25] Trey Gerrald: and Chelsey, my, RQ-C, first, today.
[00:11:30] Chelsey Donn: Okay. All the butterflies let's do it.
[00:11:33] Trey Gerrald: Ciao. Ciao. See? Oh wait. Uh, oh, um, Hmm. I don't want to finish that sentence. Oh,
[00:11:39] Chelsey Donn: know what,
[00:11:40] Trey Gerrald: oh, the gas attendance. Yeah.
[00:11:44] Seattle Gum Wall 3 Star Review
[00:11:44] VOICEOVER: Review That Review.
[00:11:48] Chelsey Donn: Oh, okay. So I was thinking like, what are those weird landmarks things that exist in different cities that are like on the must see list, but also like, wow. When I was doing that research, I came upon something called post alley gum wall in Seattle. Yeah. So what this is is it's basically walls and walls and walls and walls of gum.
[00:12:18] Chelsey Donn: it. That's all you need to know.
[00:12:20] Trey Gerrald: Like used chewed up gum?
[00:12:22] Chelsey Donn: Used, chewed up gum, that people put on the wall. And then I guess maybe like it, it just collects over time and it's just, there's there's gum everywhere and people are taking photos. Okay. So as I was doing that, I came across this Review!, it's a three-star review written by Sarah S.
[00:12:42] Chelsey Donn: Here is listed as an elite reviewer as I was reading this Review! I was a little bit confused. So I'm hoping that Trey, and maybe some of you listening can help clear some of this up. So I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead and read. This is a three star Yelp review written by Sarah S who is an elite reviewer, and it is for the gum wall in Seattle.
[00:13:07] Trey Gerrald: No boy.
[00:13:10] Chelsey Donn: Last review of 2018! It's been a ride, Yelp, and working for you was a blast in 2017 into 2018. I got to say. I didn't mind. My amazing boss and former Chicago cm, Alex S rolling out of his position though and giving myself a break from his insane Yelp events schedule, plus tons of online work, several events every week.
[00:13:45] Chelsey Donn: Dude was a legend. All that aside. Being just a regular old Yelp reviewer again has brought back my joy in sharing my experiences through reviews. Enough of the sentimental crap! On with the off this roller coaster of a year with my 269 review in 2018. And I'm finishing off 2018 with the weird one, the gum wall at Pike Place in Seattle.
[00:14:18] Chelsey Donn: It's a local landmark in the alleyway below pike place market about 50 feet in length covered from bottom to 15 feet up in used gum. This tradition of sticking gum on the wall began in 1993. When it became an official tourist attraction in 1999. It's only been scrubbed and scraped down once since then in 2015. This is such an obscure little lore. By sure, it's worth taking a few minutes between your eating and shopping to check it out... If you can stomach it.
[00:15:02] Chelsey Donn: I knew I had to check out the gum wall while I was at pike place and was looking forward to it. I had visions of taking cute pictures that would be totes Insta worthy and be the Talk Of The Gram!! Well, it didn't work out that way.
[00:15:20] Chelsey Donn: I was so gross out once I was in the presence of all this half chewed, disgusting, moist and sticky gum, and to see people touching it and leaning up against it, I think. The thought of it right now makes me want to throw up. I legit started dry heaving while I was there. It looks all bright, beautiful color and fun and pictures.
[00:15:50] Chelsey Donn: But in person I couldn't handle it disgusto I took a couple of shots and promptly had a roll my ass out of there with a quickness sands, Instagrammable shots. It's one of those things. I'm glad I saw, but heck no, I don't need to see it ever again, as long as I live or in any other lives! Pass!
[00:16:20] Chelsey Donn: What happened in the beginning of the Review! cause I'm still unsure.
[00:16:26] Chelsey Donn: It's now the third time I've read it like to myself and I still don't understand the joke about working for y'all. Like if you're in a I, the only thing I can think of is that there's, they're swapping between being elite and Natalee. Like we're not making money as an elite reviewer, right. Or.
[00:16:43] Trey Gerrald: Well, no, I at first, because you told us they're an elite Review! or I was thinking, oh, this person's crazy. And they thought they were working for you out, but they were reviewer. But no, I, it sounds to me like they actually held a position for Yelp's headquarters. Cause they talk about the boss who had endless events to go to.
[00:17:02] Trey Gerrald: And now they're just a normal reviewer.
[00:17:04] Chelsey Donn: Um,
[00:17:06] Trey Gerrald: the impression I got because you don't get paid as an elite. Review!.
[00:17:10] Chelsey Donn: I know.
[00:17:11] Trey Gerrald: Regardless. I do think it has nothing to do with this gum wall.
[00:17:17] Chelsey Donn: Oh, it doesn't! No.
[00:17:19] Trey Gerrald: Yeah. Like I'm really having this feeling about Sarah S that I don't care. I don't know why you've put in so much personal information.
[00:17:29] Chelsey Donn: Also it's like, so arbitrary, like it's there. It's what is the number of Review!? Did they say.
[00:17:36] Trey Gerrald: 269th. Review! in 2018 and I wrote it down.
[00:17:40] Chelsey Donn: I mean, if it was like the 300th or like a nice, pretty round number, it's like, why is the 269? So significant. It's like somebody that's like, I'm going to like celebrate my 26th birthday. And it's a really big deal. And you're like, yeah, 25 and 30. That's what you get.
[00:17:57] Trey Gerrald: I think for me, it's just, Hmm. How do I want to say I'm getting a sense that Sarah S really takes their life very seriously, because I think that you give this expository information up top show people that you are really valid. Meanwhile, the meat on the bones of this review are very minimal other than like the history of the gum wall, which read to me like Sarah.
[00:18:27] Trey Gerrald: Auditioning to be an article writer at Buzzfeed. Like why are you writing an article in your Review! instead of just telling us, like you thought it was gross. Meanwhile, why did they do a cleaning in 2015? That's what I'm curious about.
[00:18:45] Chelsey Donn: I don't know, maybe there was an event that happened who the hell knows. I mean, listen, I actually liked that part of the Review! when Sarah, like, by the time we got over that initial saga that I was like, what does this even mean? still, I'm still not convinced. I understand. Once we got through that part, I was like, oh, that's nice.
[00:19:04] Chelsey Donn: Because the gum is like so weird and arbitrary. Right. And I read through a lot of reviews just because when I found this thing, I was like, oh my God, there's gotta be reviews about this. And none of them really answered for me, like why, when, how, you know what I mean?
[00:19:19] Chelsey Donn: Like a lot of them were like, it's gross or it smells like gum or, you know, just stuff like that. But I liked that Sarah took an extra time to be like, this is the history of the thing. Like that was actually nice. And I think what impact, whether or not I was going to see something like, oh, I thought that was cool.
[00:19:37] Trey Gerrald: It's interesting to me that Sarah S was so sickened by the site, but they'll then still said they were glad to see it.
[00:19:47] Chelsey Donn: Yeah.
[00:19:47] Trey Gerrald: I mean, this is, I think this might be a first on the show where I think there is new and unique and valuable information inside of the Review!. I really think that Sarah S gets all points there.
[00:19:59] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. I do
[00:20:00] Trey Gerrald: W okay. So what about the spelling? And.
[00:20:03] Chelsey Donn: It was very good, but there was one little error. I can't remember where it was. It was, it was minor though.
[00:20:08] Trey Gerrald: Oh, okay.
[00:20:09] Chelsey Donn: but tiny.
[00:20:10] Trey Gerrald: then truthful, shady. I don't think Sarah's being shady. I think Sarah is being a little indulgent, but
[00:20:18] Chelsey Donn: but she is an elite reviewer. We know these elite reviewers do tend to be indulgent. There's this pattern of, of this kind of behavior and indulgence. So the indulgence in the second two thirds of the Review! doesn't really bother me. It's more like
[00:20:34] Trey Gerrald: the first,
[00:20:35] Chelsey Donn: was completely unnecessary.
[00:20:37] Trey Gerrald: right. As far as the experience here, you know, the more I thought about it, the more I imagined seeing millions of used chewed up pieces of gum probably looks really gross.
[00:20:50] Chelsey Donn: So gross.
[00:20:51] Trey Gerrald: especially if it's like a random alleyway behind like the original Starbucks, I'm thinking this, it probably is very common that people are like, oh, you know, like it's probably gross.
[00:21:02] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. I liked that. They also touched on again. I obviously have more information about this gum wall than, than anyone probably at this point. But what I did like is a lot of people will go to this wall for the Instagram shots, which is like eye roll, but like they do. And I think that. I liked that Sarah brought that up and was like, yeah, I thought I was going to be in it for the Instagram shots too.
[00:21:28] Chelsey Donn: But when I got there, it was so gross that I like quickly took a few shots and none of them were even Instagram worthy. Like maybe we skipped the gum wall if we're just there for the photo.
[00:21:38] Trey Gerrald: Yeah. And I was going to bring this up in my assessment because I, I feel like because Sarah. Was negligent and uh, reaching their goal of being the talk of the gram. I think Sarah then put it onto the Yelp review by saying I'm going to be the Yelp.
[00:21:55] Chelsey Donn: Interesting, interesting, interesting. They did include some photos.
[00:21:59] Trey Gerrald: All right. Good vault.
[00:22:00] Chelsey Donn: None of them are Instagram worthy. They are like photos of other people taking their photos in front of the wall.
[00:22:10] Trey Gerrald: What do you think of the humor entertainment level?
[00:22:14] Chelsey Donn: I was entertained when I write it. I thought there was an attempted humor. I don't think again, like I was rolling over, like I was for that ball Review! which at world cherries of fire, but I thought it was like, it wasn't boring. I mean, maybe it was the top, but it was like colorful ish.
[00:22:32] Trey Gerrald: Yeah. I was entertained because it's just interesting to me. okay. So.
[00:22:38] Chelsey Donn: Is there anything else we should consider before we crown it?
[00:22:41] Trey Gerrald: No, I think I could crown. I think I could crowd.
[00:22:43] Chelsey Donn: All right. I think I can crown Sarah ass. Let's do it.
[00:22:46] Trey Gerrald: All right. So Chelsey and I each have our own set of one to five crown cards in an effort to be fair and not influence one another. We will simultaneously reveal our or hitting.
[00:22:58] VOICEOVER: Queens are Tabulating.
[00:23:04] VOICEOVER: Total Score!.
[00:23:06] Chelsey Donn: Interesting. Okay. So Trey is holding up three crowns. I'm holding up four crowns. Trey, why are you holding up three crowns for Sarah ass?
[00:23:14] Trey Gerrald: I just gave three because The overall impact for me is Sarah S. Gave me a book report on this and, and on their life, I just, I felt like they could have trimmed a lot of the fat and the Review!, but there isn't formation barring one mistake. It's grammar and spelling is pretty great. think they're being truthful.
[00:23:40] Trey Gerrald: I think it's a common experience. I was entertained maybe not for the right reasons, but, and then as far as a deal breaker, it's not really a deal breaker, but I'm not going to click on Sarah as his name. other 268 reviews. now. So that's why I gave Three,. What about you Chelsey? Why did you give for crowns?
[00:24:01] Chelsey Donn: I feel like I was being extra generous today. I thought about doing three and a half. Maybe I should have done three and a half. I threw Sarah the extra crown because you know, like we discussed, I sort of differ from ULI. I liked the historical. Background stuff. That was a nice, additional aspect of the Review!
[00:24:21] Chelsey Donn: that a lot of the other reviewers didn't include. And, you know, she gave it three crowns, not one. And I felt like, okay, it's.
[00:24:30] Trey Gerrald: Oh, right,
[00:24:31] Chelsey Donn: it seems sort of like, cool. If you're here to take a photo and this is like, what you want, like, I don't know, bring nose plugs. I thought there was, I thought it was, you know, a decent Review!
[00:24:42] Chelsey Donn: all around minus that first part. I think if, if Sarah had just started after that paragraph, it would have been even more queenly. So that was why, what was four crowns for Sarah?
[00:24:53] Trey Gerrald: Excellent funny, find
[00:24:55] Chelsey Donn: Thank you. Okay. Let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we can get into RQ-T's Review! can't. Wait, is it on theme?
[00:25:04] Trey Gerrald: woop woop. Well, my Review! will tie into my zinger spoiler.
[00:25:10] Chelsey Donn: Yes, there's usually a thing. I'm all right. Can't wait to hear.
[00:25:16] VOICEOVER: Hold your crown. We'll be right back.
[00:25:45] Ad[00:25:45] Meryl-Go-Round
[00:25:45] Trey Gerrald: One-Star-Zinger time Chelsey. Are you ready for a game? And to take a quick spin on the Meryl-Go-Round.
[00:25:55] Chelsey Donn: Um, I am, I, I had like a flashback for a second. I thought it was Thanksgiving cause the, the Turkey came back. But I am ready. Let's do it.
[00:26:04] VOICEOVER: 'I don't feel like an icon. Most of the days, I feel like 'I can't!' That's with an, A'..
[00:26:13] Chelsey Donn: All right, Trey and I have each picked a rotten scathing, pithy One-Star-Zinger and with 30 seconds on the clock, we'll each take turns, trying to recite the zinger in as many genres as possible
[00:26:25] Trey Gerrald: Just like queen Meryl, who does it all.
[00:26:28] Chelsey Donn: before the clock runs out. All right. Try it. Whereas using her from today.
[00:26:32] Trey Gerrald: I have a one star review from amazon.com for Rounderbum men's, but enhancing padded trunks. This is written by amazing two exclamation mark.
[00:26:48] Chelsey Donn: Okay.
[00:26:49] Trey Gerrald: And their subject is Hurts and their review from 2018 reads crushes your junk.
[00:26:57] Chelsey Donn: Um, do you think that they bought the wrong size? Maybe,
[00:27:03] Trey Gerrald: Oh man. I don't know, baby.
[00:27:05] Chelsey Donn: if we're crushing the junk. probably should have gone up a size, just the thought. Not, not to blame you, but anyway, I'm gonna strap you into just like, I don't know. I feel kind of pure today. So can I, can I strap you into like a crown? Is that okay?
[00:27:23] Chelsey Donn: All right. Are you ready?
[00:27:27] Trey Gerrald: I am. Let's do it.
[00:27:30] VOICEOVER: Two, One, GO!.
[00:27:34] Chelsey Donn: Yankee
[00:27:35] Trey Gerrald: Crushes your junk,
[00:27:38] Chelsey Donn: courtroom drama.
[00:27:40] Trey Gerrald: your junk.
[00:27:45] Chelsey Donn: So Barbara.
[00:27:47] Trey Gerrald: your junk crashes.
[00:27:56] Chelsey Donn: Southern
[00:27:57] Trey Gerrald: as you jink
[00:28:00] Chelsey Donn: spy.
[00:28:01] Trey Gerrald: crunches your job.
[00:28:04] Chelsey Donn: Thank you for giving us the read, even though you're not getting the point. All
[00:28:07] Trey Gerrald: It took you so long. Ah,
[00:28:09] Chelsey Donn: All right, fine. I'll give you spy. right, I'll give you a spy then. Trey.
[00:28:17] Trey Gerrald: was
[00:28:18] Chelsey Donn: great job, Trey. Damn Gina. Good
[00:28:23] Trey Gerrald: What is your zinger today? Chelsey?
[00:28:26] Chelsey Donn: Okay. My zinger is a Google review for target. And this review is written by Daniel P.
[00:28:35] Chelsey Donn: The review is Connor. You're not the father. Matt is, yeah. I don't know why Daniel P decided to go to this forum to let Connor know. Um, That's it. It's a review of target from Daniel P Connor. You're not the father. Matt is
[00:28:57] Trey Gerrald: okay. well, obviously I'm going to strap you in some Maury Povich.
[00:29:01] Chelsey Donn: okay. Yay. Love it.
[00:29:04] Trey Gerrald: All right.
[00:29:05] Chelsey Donn: are not the father.
[00:29:06] Trey Gerrald: Are you ready?
[00:29:08] Chelsey Donn: I am ready.
[00:29:09] VOICEOVER: Three, Two, One, GO!.
[00:29:14] Chelsey Donn: The father.
[00:29:17] Trey Gerrald: superhero,
[00:29:19] Chelsey Donn: Carter. You're not the father,
[00:29:22] Trey Gerrald: slapstick,
[00:29:25] Chelsey Donn: not the father.
[00:29:28] Trey Gerrald: auctioneer
[00:29:30] Chelsey Donn: The father, Matt is
[00:29:33] Trey Gerrald: Shakespeare.
[00:29:35] Chelsey Donn: Connor. You're not the father. Matt is
[00:29:38] Trey Gerrald: Yeah, breaking news
[00:29:40] Chelsey Donn: Connor. You're not the father about his.
[00:29:44] Trey Gerrald: six.
[00:29:44] Trey Gerrald: sex.
[00:29:46] Chelsey Donn: You Andiva, take your crown, take your crown, your crown,
[00:29:52] Trey Gerrald: was a really funny zinger. You just randomly found that.
[00:29:56] Chelsey Donn: correct? Yeah, she did. Sometimes you find a Daniel.
[00:30:02] Rounderbum 1 Star Review
[00:30:02] VOICEOVER: Review That Review.
[00:30:06] Chelsey Donn: Oh, right. We are back from that rousing game break and Trey, it is your turn. Where is your Review! from this week?
[00:30:17] Trey Gerrald: All right today, I have a one star review from yelp.com
[00:30:24] Chelsey Donn: Okay.
[00:30:25] Trey Gerrald: written by Bobby T for Rounderbum men's but enhancing underwear.
[00:30:34] Chelsey Donn: Okay, hold on. Hold. Okay. Um, questions before we get started. So is this the same product as the zinger? Like the same exact product?
[00:30:45] Trey Gerrald: So interesting. So the product?
[00:30:47] Trey Gerrald: is for one of the pairs of underwear. This Yelp review is for the store in west Hollywood, the storefront
[00:30:56] Chelsey Donn: And what is it called again?
[00:30:58] Trey Gerrald: Rounderbum.
[00:31:01] Chelsey Donn: Okay. Just want to make sure I had all that. Okay.
[00:31:04] Trey Gerrald: And do you understand what rounderbum is?
[00:31:07] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. Like it's basically like reverse Spanx so that it looks like you have a nap, a nice round, but it's like an undergarment that's meant to enhance and it's in west Hollywood, so
[00:31:20] Trey Gerrald: Yes.
[00:31:21] Chelsey Donn: it's okay. It's in the right, you know, space
[00:31:26] Trey Gerrald: It's actually, I think it's in the spot that used to be American Apparel and w and we ha yeah, at that corner
[00:31:34] Chelsey Donn: real estate. That makes sense. That makes sense
[00:31:38] Trey Gerrald: Okay. So here we go. This is Bobby T's Review!. This is written on November 13th, 2020.
[00:31:46] Chelsey Donn: Okay.
[00:31:47] Trey Gerrald: As you all can see my reviews are always very positive I love to support businesses. However, this business does not deserve to be supported I bought some things from them when they came the item is too small I asked if I could exchange the ones I did not open.
[00:32:05] Trey Gerrald: I was not allowed to do so on one of the compression shirts I sent it back to them because their ad was misleading saying it was a certain way and it was not. And they would not accept returns after they said they would which took about two weeks to do all they want to do is offer you a half credit every time you want to return something to get you to buy more this is a scam.
[00:32:29] Trey Gerrald: I am alerting everyone at my west Hollywood chamber of commerce which I'm very loudspeaker. And my email database of 850,000 people that I spend my 25 year career of being in business in west Hollywood I hope the store closes and I hope it closes soon.
[00:32:51] Trey Gerrald: You can buy the same items on eBay for $8 and 65 cents which I just ordered three dozen and they'll be here by November 21st which is much quicker than doing this exchange which is right down the street.
[00:33:05] Trey Gerrald: Also on my eBay account you can see I have bought over 700 things on it so I know how to shop.
[00:33:14] Trey Gerrald: But wait, there's more! They replied to their own Review!. So the first one was November 13th. Now it's November 20th, which is my sister's birthday. Bobby T writes again.
[00:33:28] Trey Gerrald: Updated Review!. I sent an exchange back three weeks ago and I'm still getting the run-around I don't have this type of trouble when I shop at the Andrew Christian website. What is going on with Rounderbum and that they're closed is this company not solvent enough to have one employee do returns and exchanges I was ready to buy more but now I can buy the same thing on eBay for 80% less.
[00:33:53] Chelsey Donn: Okay, so, okay. So the reason you're running out of breath here is because Bobby T is seemingly ultra proficient in run-on sentences. right?
[00:34:07] Trey Gerrald: Yes. I only took a breath when I was
[00:34:09] Chelsey Donn: Oh
[00:34:10] Trey Gerrald: was my, um, that was my exercise today,
[00:34:14] Chelsey Donn: God. I mean,
[00:34:16] Trey Gerrald: which I think, I think that's appropriate since Bobby T. Shares that they have a database of eight, 850,000 people on their email list. So you would think they would know how to write sentences.
[00:34:29] Chelsey Donn: Give me a break. Okay. One question right off the bat. And we've, I think talked about this before. What do we think when people start their reviews with the whole line, which we've heard a million times at this point, like I usually write all positive reviews, but today is the exception.
[00:34:46] Trey Gerrald: You know, I don't know. I'm kind of have to, like, I can see. I want to believe them. I want to believe that's true, but I also recognize that you can set up the reader in a way that is setting them to believe that this is especially bad because you never delve in bad. So then I sort of just ignore it because I don't know if I'm being manipulated or not.
[00:35:08] Chelsey Donn: Same. I'm like doth protest too much or not. I don't know. There's something like everybody in their mother.
[00:35:16] Trey Gerrald: says that. Yeah.
[00:35:17] Chelsey Donn: Once as to know that when they returned the clothes at Ross, they so gently laid them on, on the counter and walked out with the, not even a peep, you know, it's just, it's a little crazy to me at this point.
[00:35:31] Trey Gerrald: I think I just, I had to point out here in the second updated Review! Bobby T says. I was ready to buy more, but in the first original Review!, they're going to go to the chamber of commerce to have this company close their doors, because they're so mad that they wouldn't offer the exchange So which as at Bobby's here.
[00:35:56] Chelsey Donn: Oh, my God. I feel like I'm like, have you been, why do you watch shark tank? I feel like I'm channeling my, like Mr. Wonderful. This season has gotten anger management. So every
[00:36:06] Trey Gerrald: Oh,
[00:36:07] Chelsey Donn: he will do this thing where he's like, I just want to eviscerate you, but I'm not going to, but I'm not going to. And I'm having like a little bit of that feeling with Bobby for some reason, because.
[00:36:18] Chelsey Donn: Also. So I first turned off by the positive thing, then turned off by the 850,000 emails, even though a part of me respects the move. Right. Cause it's like, you're just really showing your hand, Bobby, you know, like you're saying pay attention to me. If you don't pay attention to me, I'm going to slander you to 850,000 people.
[00:36:39] Chelsey Donn: So you better pay attention to me. Like.
[00:36:41] Trey Gerrald: Yeah.
[00:36:42] Chelsey Donn: It's really whiny and like begging attention. And I don't know much about the west Hollywood chamber of commerce, but like, is it just like a town hall type meeting where you can just go like, in my head, it's like, If you're a west Hollywood residents show up at three o'clock at west Hollywood town hall.
[00:37:02] Trey Gerrald: And we'll open the floor.
[00:37:04] Chelsey Donn: We'll open the floor at one point. And Bobby is always the one that's like, I have something to say about the trash. I have something to say about the parking I have, you know, like he's always going to be that person. And on the one hand, I almost respect that because I know exactly who Bobby is. But on the other hand, when we're going into the truthful element of this and we're deciding whether or not Bobby is truthful or shading, I think Bobby is Navy a little shady,
[00:37:34] Trey Gerrald: does, it does come across to me as shady because Bobby T self-identifies and this is written as one word loudspeakers.
[00:37:45] Chelsey Donn: yeah. Yeah.
[00:37:46] Trey Gerrald: Which I'm very,
[00:37:47] Chelsey Donn: that as your complaint last week.
[00:37:49] Trey Gerrald: oh, that's right?
[00:37:51] Trey Gerrald: But they're saying that they are allowed speaker at the chamber of commerce. So it makes me think that Bobby has learned in their 25 year career that the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
[00:38:02] Trey Gerrald: So if I complain the loudest, I'm going to get what I want. And so a little bit of this feels to me, They didn't give you a 100% refund, which you said you understood to be the case. And then they said, no, but we'll give you half store credit. So therefore you think the store should close. Like, and so therefore you go on here and you just spout all the stuff about you.
[00:38:23] Trey Gerrald: And this I'm like, I don't want to go here because I don't think it's necessary. But Bobby T is a very famous person. I. Recognized them instantly. Also, their name is very famous and they have appeared on like E and like, they are a very known fashion person. So even that makes me feel like don't, you know who I am energy.
[00:38:50] Chelsey Donn: it. Okay. Well, that's interesting because I didn't know that. And I, I still don't. I mean, I, maybe I live under a rock, but I still don't know who you're talking about in this moment. And I still got that vibe, you know, even without knowing. So I think that that is very front and center. What was the time between the two Review!.
[00:39:13] Trey Gerrald: One week it was the 13th and then the 20th.
[00:39:15] Chelsey Donn: Okay. Here's where I'm very confused. All right. Three dozen three,
[00:39:24] Trey Gerrald: Oh yeah.
[00:39:26] Chelsey Donn: pairs quick math, 36 36 pairs of underwear. 30 to 31 days a month. Why do we need so much underwear that we got, whatever we got, we returned, we bought 36 pairs. We said, they're on their way. Like, we're bragging about how fast I'm going to get them all that.
[00:39:49] Chelsey Donn: So you have them. And then a week later you're trying to go back and buy them. How many pairs do you need? Because in addition to the 36 pairs of underwear, I can't imagine you're going to do more than once a day. Like, it seems like a nighttime thing. So, or maybe not, I could be wrong. Maybe you them all day, either way 36 is a lot of underwear and then they referenced another underwear brand in the second review.
[00:40:15] Chelsey Donn: So Bobby T isn't just wearing this underwear. Clearly. They were other kinds of underwear.
[00:40:21] Trey Gerrald: Well, I want to clarify it is a little murky on the details because Bobby T and the original Review! says that they bought some things from them. The item is too small and they ask if they could exchange the ones they did not open. And they were not allowed to do so on one of the compression shirts. So they must've purchased compression shirts and underwear.
[00:40:48] Trey Gerrald: And it sounds like they wouldn't take a return back from the compression shirt, which seems even less intimate than underwear.
[00:40:55] Chelsey Donn: Right. Like you think you wouldn't take back underwear because it's like, if you've had your hearts all up on it, we might not want to resell that item
[00:41:04] Trey Gerrald: But no, you're right. They do say three dozens.
[00:41:08] Chelsey Donn: pairs. Right. So it's all like three dozen sets that you're like, oh, it could be a shirt. And this like three,
[00:41:15] Trey Gerrald: Oh wait. You know what. on E-bay they bought three
[00:41:19] Chelsey Donn: That's what I'm saying.
[00:41:21] Trey Gerrald: uh,
[00:41:22] Chelsey Donn: they bought 36. They're bragging about the fact that they're going to get it real quick, faster than they could have, if they would have ordered it through the store.
[00:41:29] Chelsey Donn: Then a week later, they're talking about going back to the store and getting more. Is this a one-star review?
[00:41:35] Trey Gerrald: Yeah.
[00:41:36] Chelsey Donn: have a five plus star Review! you're so passionate about these underwear that you wrote, not one, but two reviews within the course of two weeks, you've also bought at least 36 pairs of this kind of underwear.
[00:41:50] Chelsey Donn: Clearly there must be something really great about this underwear. If you're buying so much of it, maybe I should go pick some up,
[00:41:57] Trey Gerrald: Chelsey. That is like a really great point. I didn't even pick up,
[00:42:01] Trey Gerrald: on that. I mean, obviously spelling and grammar is horrifying. We've both kind of find this to be shady, common experience or a fluke. I don't know. Cause they.
[00:42:12] Chelsey Donn: What is the experience? What is the experience that I can't return? All my items.
[00:42:18] Trey Gerrald: Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, if you're this angry, you're going to go to the chamber of commerce, please. Quote what the return policy was that you're saying they're not
[00:42:27] Chelsey Donn: Why are we so upset? I want to
[00:42:31] Trey Gerrald: that's a
[00:42:31] Chelsey Donn: I missing something? All I know is that we're upset because I can't get a hundred percent refund. I can only get 50% store credit.
[00:42:39] Trey Gerrald: Half
[00:42:40] Chelsey Donn: Is that the thesis?
[00:42:41] Trey Gerrald: yeah.
[00:42:42] Chelsey Donn: It was lost in the Michigan costs. I barely could see the point anymore.
[00:42:47] Trey Gerrald: So, is it humorous?
[00:42:49] Chelsey Donn: No.
[00:42:50] Trey Gerrald: I don't think so.
[00:42:51] Chelsey Donn: I mean, again, like it's funny because again, I don't know who Bobby T is and don't come at me. Okay. Like, I'm sure you're a great person. I don't know Bobby T but the character that I'm getting of Bobby tee off the table is very entertaining to me. It's not humor necessarily, but I am entertained by this character walking around the world.
[00:43:14] Chelsey Donn: And I do think I get a lot of personality, I think for me is almost a part of the humor. Assessment is personality and there is personality here.
[00:43:25] Trey Gerrald: Yeah.
[00:43:25] Chelsey Donn: It's like oozing from the page.
[00:43:27] Trey Gerrald: I guess I just I'm. I am unsure about the experience as we pointed out. Like, I can't tell if this is common or fluke. Like, I don't know if Bobby misinterpreted what the return policy was or if they're actually not honoring their word, that's unclear to me. So I don't know.
[00:43:43] Chelsey Donn: If there was a reply from owner here, I would be curious if they would have a different story of this exchange. Like these are undergarments, like they are on private, whatever. Like we don't accept them back. Uh, we will give a 50% refund cause essentially we have to donate the product or like, is there an explanation here?
[00:44:00] Chelsey Donn: That's like Bobby T should have gotten the memo and didn't get the memo. I don't know.
[00:44:05] Trey Gerrald: I don't
[00:44:06] Chelsey Donn: No deal breakers.
[00:44:07] Trey Gerrald: now I think I could crown Bobby's here.
[00:44:09] Chelsey Donn: I like feel bad. I'm going to have to stop talking about them, but I'm ready to crown them. Let's do it. Let's crown by.
[00:44:15] VOICEOVER: The Queens are Tabulating.
[00:44:23] Chelsey Donn: Interesting. Okay. So I'm holding up a half. Crown. Trey is holding up one crown. I was like going back and forth 13 and a half crown in one crown. I'll go first. I gave Bobby T a half crown because like I said, at the end of the day, I'm not really sure what the point of the Review! is. I wish that whatever the thesis statement that was being made here, Made clearly, but because there was so much else clouding this Review!,
[00:44:45] Chelsey Donn: I can't even really walk away with this armed with the knowledge I would need to proceed at the store. So for that reason, there's not really a ton of impact. I'm a little bit confused. Like I said, reverse impact for me. This product seems great. Maybe I should go get it. So for that reason, half crown, why one crown for, for Bobby T from
[00:45:05] Trey Gerrald: Well, I felt like all I walk away with after reading this is that I should double check the return policy and make sure I'm purchasing. Sides, et cetera, please like please proofread and add punctuation. It's like, that's just obnoxious at this point. And I gave it the one crown, because it was funny to me that Bobby T was so mad and spiteful.
[00:45:26] Trey Gerrald: That's what it felt like to me. So that's why he gave it one crown.
[00:45:29] Chelsey Donn: I hear you. I was definitely going back and forth between both. So, thanks. That was fun. Thanks for bringing that in right now. I'm super curious who that is, say
[00:45:38] My Royal Highness!
[00:45:38] Chelsey Donn: all right, my queen, we have reached the most Regal portion of our show. Who are you? Inducting trey for?
[00:45:47] VOICEOVER: My Royal Highness
[00:45:48] Trey Gerrald: Okay, so here we go. Here's the completion of my teas up top. All right. Chelsey season two of Cheer came out last month. So I'm watching it late, but, Okay
[00:46:00] Trey Gerrald: So anyone who did not watch Cheer was a documentary series on Netflix that followed the nation's highest scoring Cheerleading squad
[00:46:13] Chelsey Donn: collegiate, right?
[00:46:15] Trey Gerrald: And it's actually a junior college.
[00:46:17] Trey Gerrald: And what was so fascinating about the program or about the television show is that they're there to catch all of the drama, all of the injuries, but what was like so fascinating was the stakes are so high. And I think that it affects me emotionally because anytime I see anyone that's a professional dancer.
[00:46:45] Trey Gerrald: There's something that is so emotional to me about that level of discipline and commitment. And so this, the whole Cheerleading thing, so much of season one is sort of stripping down what our cultural understanding of like Cheering on the sidelines versus the competitive Cheerleading squads
[00:47:04] Chelsey Donn: those of us who have seen bring it on, you know,
[00:47:06] Trey Gerrald: Yes. but it literally is bring it on, on crack because they're doing like gymnastics on top of other bodies. Being held up there, like the third person on top. And these people that are doing the Cheering are in their early twenties. And there is a shelf life to being able to do that to your body.
[00:47:28] Chelsey Donn: Oh my God. Yeah.
[00:47:29] Trey Gerrald: There's just, it's just the highest of highest stakes.
[00:47:32] Trey Gerrald: And it's so much about teamwork and like, it just very moving. There's a reason. It sort of became a sensation. So season two has just come out and it gets very meta because it's following how they've all become. Famous. And so they're still trying to put their routine together. They want to like get to Daytona and, you know, they just have this extreme goal.
[00:47:55] Trey Gerrald: That's so taxing. They're like puking, trying to like get their bodies conditioned. And then all of a sudden COVID happens the middle of this second season. And then all this other stuff happens. I'm not going to talk about it. But anyway, that's what I've been doing all week has been like Bingeing. two.
[00:48:14] Chelsey Donn: Yeah.
[00:48:14] Trey Gerrald: But My Royal Highness induction today as the creator, the executive producer and the director, his name is Greg Whiteley. He is a multi Emmy winner. I just think the idea is so. Obviously going to be interesting. It's like sports.
[00:48:32] Trey Gerrald: I mean, there's so much sport content, but it's a sport that people don't think of as a sport. They think it's the silly thing. So there's so much to strip away and then just the storytelling is so fraught and emotional. And then I thought, how did you ever have a season two, like the first season tracks them going to this competition?
[00:48:52] Trey Gerrald: So like, what's story after that? And I honestly think season two is better than season one and it goes
[00:48:58] Chelsey Donn: post COVID.
[00:49:00] Trey Gerrald: Yes. It goes off into like six different places like you don't. is, it is so fascinating.
[00:49:08] Chelsey Donn: huh?
[00:49:08] Trey Gerrald: So I just, I am inducting Greg Whiteley, kudos to you for having the thought, the idea and.
[00:49:15] Chelsey Donn: Pivoting.
[00:49:15] Trey Gerrald: Pivoting.
[00:49:16] Trey Gerrald: and trying to figure out like, okay, the Metta ness of watching them, trying to navigate getting agents and managers and doing cameos and then rehearsing. And then the coach on dancing with us. Like, it just is so fascinating. And I think that ultimately the thesis statement of the show is what do we put up with for the things that are our hearts desire.
[00:49:40] Chelsey Donn: Yeah.
[00:49:40] Trey Gerrald: Which I think is just so much more important to look at examine questions showcase then like, will he give the rose to this girl? You know, it's like, it actually is an intelligent story for reality television. And it's highlighting these people that are committed to something that other people laugh at, which is just hook line and singer sinker.
[00:50:03] Trey Gerrald: I'm involved. I'm there. I'm, I'm watching. So I'm inducting you, Greg Whiteley for your genius. Genius first and second season of Cheer on Netflix.
[00:50:15] Chelsey Donn: Wow. Greg Whiteley. Congratulations. You have been officially inducted. You're a Royal Highness and you're in good company. You know, you, the magic eraser, you know, we got lots of things in there at this point.
[00:50:30] Trey Gerrald: Aloe vera
[00:50:31] Chelsey Donn: Cheese. French Fries. You could have a whole meal.
[00:50:33] Royal Review!
[00:50:33] Trey Gerrald: all right, Chelsey, do we have time for a Royal review before we complete today's episode?
[00:50:39] Chelsey Donn: Oh my God. Yes. There's always time for a Royal Review! Can't wait!
[00:50:44] VOICEOVER: Baby it's time for some Royal Reviews!
[00:50:51] Trey Gerrald: All right. So every review that we receive for our show