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TRANSCRIPT of Episode 56: "Tattoo Salon: 1 vs 5 Stars"

Review That Review with Chelsey Donn & Trey Gerrald
Episode 55: "Tattoo Salon: 1 vs 5 Stars"


*Please Pardon any spelling errors!

[00:00:00] Chelsey Donn: One, Two, Three!

[00:00:02] Trey Gerrald: buckle my shoe. Three, four, shut that door.

[00:00:07] Chelsey Donn: Five, Six, pick up sticks.

[00:00:11] Trey Gerrald: Seven, eight. I'm not straight.

[00:00:14] Chelsey Donn: Nine, 10. That's the end.

THEME SONG: [00:00:16] Everybody's got an opinion.

Every Californian and Virginian.

It's so hard to tell who to trust and who to ignore.

Someone's gotta settle the score.

Trey and Chelsey will help you choose!

Whose views win, which ones lose.

Online haters are comin' for you!

Baby, it's time to Review That Review!

[00:00:48] Chelsey Donn: hi,

[00:00:49] Trey Gerrald: hello. Chels! Hello listeners. Welcome to Review That Review the podcast dedicated to reviewing

[00:00:58] Chelsey Donn: Reviews! We're just like Siskel and Ebert only instead of reviewing cinematic masterpieces, we rate and review those hilarious scathing and sometimes suspicious online reviews.

[00:01:10] Trey Gerrald: that is Chelsey Donn

[00:01:12] Chelsey Donn: And that is TreyGerrald.

[00:01:14] Trey Gerrald: and together.

[00:01:15] Trey Gerrald: We are.

[00:01:16] VOICEOVER: TheReviewQueens.

[00:01:20] Trey Gerrald: For access to additional reviews and tidbits on our weekly members only after show companion podcast, plus videos, merch discounts, and a whole lot more, truly, visit our Patreon! All you got to do is go to

[00:01:36] Trey Gerrald: Chelsey Goose! Guess what I'm holding right here.

[00:01:40] Chelsey Donn: Oh, my goodness. It's an Amazon package that I sent a tray that maybe will be helpful.

[00:01:47] Trey Gerrald: Let's see, I'm going to open it

[00:01:48] Chelsey Donn: Oh my God. Let's see.

[00:01:50] Trey Gerrald: This is a great plug for our, um, Patreon, if you want to watch. Oh, I

[00:01:58] Chelsey Donn: in plastic, so fresh and so clean.

[00:02:02] Trey Gerrald: wrapping.

[00:02:03] Chelsey Donn: Oh, thank you. can't take credit for that. Is it soft? So it's the, oh, I kind of like how it's like sort of tie

[00:02:12] Trey Gerrald: dye.

[00:02:14] Chelsey Donn: I wasn't expecting that, but I

[00:02:16] Trey Gerrald: I actually really liked that,

[00:02:17] Chelsey Donn: I think I might've turned tray into a three Wolf's howling at the moon kind of guy.

[00:02:22] Trey Gerrald: it's a hundred percent cotton, so it does feel like a, like a Hanes t-shirt.

[00:02:26] Chelsey Donn: Sure.

[00:02:27] Trey Gerrald: Should I put it on

[00:02:28] Chelsey Donn: Yeah, you can. So Trey's wearing the three wolves howling at the moon shirt. That was, was that last week.

[00:02:34] Trey Gerrald: last week.

[00:02:35] Chelsey Donn: Wow. Yeah. See, thank God for Amazon. Really on top of that, um, already. Nice AMR.

[00:02:45] Trey Gerrald: well, I feel sexy.

[00:02:47] Chelsey Donn: Do you really.

[00:02:48] Trey Gerrald: And if you don't know what we're talking about, go back on your podcast player and listen to our three Wolf Review! episodes.

[00:02:55] Chelsey Donn: Yes. And then you'll be in the know. Do you have something you want to get off your chest?

[00:03:00] Trey Gerrald: Yes, actually, today I really have a very maddening complaint and I'm ready to.

[00:03:07] VOICEOVER: Lodge A Complaint.

[00:03:08] Trey Gerrald: Against button down. T-shirts that come folded in their packaging?

[00:03:15] Chelsey Donn: Interesting.

[00:03:17] Trey Gerrald: Y. do we fold nice button down shirts that we know we're going to have to iron? Why, why they always have those metal clips? They're like weird paperclips that like leave indents on like The sleeves on the neck.

[00:03:34] Trey Gerrald: They always folded all weird. Cause they make it a little square. And then it's like this shirt I'm specifically purchasing. Nice. And wrinkle-free, it kills me when it's a wrinkle-free material. And the first thing you do is you unpackage it. You have that cardboard, you have those weird, like plastic things around the button.

[00:03:54] Trey Gerrald: like, yes, then sometimes there's this random tissue paper and it's like, I'm fighting to get all the clips off. Then they fall on the ground. I have to pick it up from my dogs, bite it. And then it's like, I like do that thing where you're like to like,

[00:04:06] Chelsey Donn: sure.

[00:04:06] Trey Gerrald: what I'm talking about? When you have a shirt

[00:04:08] Trey Gerrald: it's

[00:04:08] Chelsey Donn: like

[00:04:09] Trey Gerrald: out.

[00:04:09] Trey Gerrald: dryer? Yeah.

[00:04:10] Trey Gerrald: You shake and it's like wrinkle to all hell. It's like It's like the shirt was packaged seven years ago and it's been in some grandmas addict. And now here I am having at it's like I'm running late. I'm excited for my new shirt and it's all wrinkled. There's like 900 wrinkles. And then I have to like figure out cause like starches and on trend anymore.

[00:04:32] Trey Gerrald: And it's like, well, now I have to heat up my iron because a steamer is not going to get These out because these are.

[00:04:38] Trey Gerrald: like severe creases. Do you, have you ever experienced that? Is that like blouses? I feel like you're usually on hangers, but like I'm buttoned down

[00:04:47] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. I think it's not like I have, cause I have a few like nice Ralph Lauren button downs, but in the women's section, usually those are sold on hangers where I feel like in the men's section, it's more like, I don't know, I could be wrong. Just have them all staff.

[00:05:04] Trey Gerrald: yes. Both exist, but like, they are like folded. I mean, I guess

[00:05:09] Chelsey Donn: No. I know you mean,

[00:05:11] Trey Gerrald: to like ship that probably to like a store or something. Well, that's my complaint.

[00:05:16] Chelsey Donn: Okay. That's fair. I hear you.

[00:05:19] Trey Gerrald: what about you? Is there anything you. want to complain?

[00:05:21] Chelsey Donn: Well, yeah, like in the interest of talking about time and how it feels like I have less and less of it, I might've brought this complaint up before. I don't care. I'm going to bring it up again.

[00:05:33] Trey Gerrald: okay.

[00:05:34] Chelsey Donn: Why do I have to talk to a robot before I talk to a human?

[00:05:37] Chelsey Donn: I would almost rather be put on hold unpopular opinion maybe, but when I call the pharmacy.

[00:05:44] Trey Gerrald: oh

[00:05:45] Chelsey Donn: Every time, like even today, I really need to call the pharmacy. Cause there's something I need to deal with that. Like, they didn't send me one of my prescriptions and I needed to deal with that. But I was like, I can't call the pharmacy right now because that's like a two hour commitment because first I need to talk to a robot, convince the robot that yes, I need to speak with a pharmacist.

[00:06:08] Chelsey Donn: After I do that, then I wait on hold for like an hour to talk to a pharmacist. So it's just such a long process. Maybe like this is kind of, I guess, specific to the pharmacy, but really in general, it's fine. If you're going to have one, that's like to go to, you know, to be directed to the pharmacy press, One,, that's fine.

[00:06:27] Chelsey Donn: But I mean like I'm a robot that can handle full sentences. Please tell me what it is that you need help with today. Like, no.

[00:06:34] Trey Gerrald: I didn't get that. Repeat that.

[00:06:36] Chelsey Donn: Yeah, exactly. Representative representative representative. I mean, how many times do I have to say it,

[00:06:42] Trey Gerrald: Did you say orange Tabby cat, if not repeated again,

[00:06:47] Chelsey Donn: It's so annoying. So you do want to hear the prescriptions we have on file.

[00:06:53] Chelsey Donn: No, I don't. I don't. I don't.

[00:06:56] Trey Gerrald: today's working hours are, these are different from Tuesday, are Thursday. We are here for that. It's just mad.

[00:07:04] Chelsey Donn: It's so

[00:07:05] Trey Gerrald: You know, it's wild. When I had to call the fraud department for that, those credit card

[00:07:10] Chelsey Donn: Oh yeah.

[00:07:11] Trey Gerrald: it, it rang like two times and then it was like a person and I was caught off

[00:07:16] Chelsey Donn: my God. You're like, this is fraud.

[00:07:19] Trey Gerrald: I screamed. I was like, This is a person.

[00:07:23] Chelsey Donn: I think it it's part of this culture, which I don't, I'm not going to dig into it too much because it just made me think of another complaint I want to complain about, but just the whole idea that nobody can talk to anybody anymore. Like we can't have conversations cause we're so not used to talking.

[00:07:38] Chelsey Donn: We're used to texting, pressing one for diff or two or three or talking to robots. Siri, Alexa. Dare. I say those two words amongst devices. Yeah. Anyway, that's it. I'm getting it off my chest. I feel better now, but still need to call the pharmacy. What am I going to find the time? I don't know.

[00:07:58] Trey Gerrald: maybe you could do it in the background of today's episode.

[00:08:01] Chelsey Donn: Would you guys mind, would you mind if I just queue up the call?

[00:08:05] Trey Gerrald: Well, Chelsey, I am feeling really excited about going head to head.

[00:08:12] Chelsey Donn: Oh, my God. I got scared a little bit. I'm also excited about GO!.

[00:08:18] Trey Gerrald: Well, then let's do it

[00:08:20] VOICEOVER: Assess That Kvetch.

[00:08:22] Trey Gerrald: today. Listeners is yet another. Versus up or so, and today we are going to cover both a one-star and a five-star Yelp review on the same subject. Today's subject is Illuminati tattoo in Las Vegas.

[00:08:46] Chelsey Donn: That's right. Sin city for this versus episode, Trey has selected the five star and I have selected the one star. So to determine who reads first, we got to flip that. I think you have to guess.

[00:09:03] Trey Gerrald: Okay, I'm going to say tails

[00:09:05] Chelsey Donn: Okay.

[00:09:07] Trey Gerrald: it's tails.

[00:09:09] Chelsey Donn: Woo five-star first, today. I mean, I like going, that happens that way.

[00:09:13] Trey Gerrald: Yeah, I think so.

[00:09:14] Chelsey Donn: All right. Today we are covering, as Trey mentioned, the Los Vegas tattoo salon Illuminati, a secret society, tattoo piercing, Coco penny company. All right. So presently on their website, this is how. Illuminati describes their service. They described themselves as being the best in Vegas, five star reviews, one, but clock off Las Vegas, strip certified professional Las Vegas artist I'll tattoo designs and styles.

[00:09:54] Chelsey Donn: Any body piercing you want large selection of body jewelry. Walk-ins welcome. Come in. Visit with any of our professional artists for a free tattoo quote. There are 282 reviews for Illuminati tattoo on Yelp. So with that background info in mind, and I'm like a little bit afraid with all the spelling issues on the website.

[00:10:20] Chelsey Donn: I mean, this could be a tattoo nightmare. Okay. Not saying I'm seeing

[00:10:27] Trey Gerrald: Your honor leading the witness.

[00:10:29] Chelsey Donn: Sorry. Sorry. All right. Well we'll neutralize the space. I'll I'll grab the Palo Santo. All right, so let's get ready to rumble for this versus battle, honey.

[00:10:45] VOICEOVER: Review That Review.

[00:10:49] Trey Gerrald: All right friends. So today I am covering the five star review from Yelp for Illuminati tattoo. And my Review.

[00:10:56] Trey Gerrald: was written by Dave S

[00:10:59] Chelsey Donn: K, sorry. I don't even have my ledger out. What's wrong with

[00:11:01] Trey Gerrald: get that has led to.

[00:11:03] Chelsey Donn: I get my ledger.

[00:11:04] Trey Gerrald: And this was written three years ago, and this is a five-star review.

[00:11:08] Chelsey Donn: Okay.

[00:11:10] Trey Gerrald: My 16 year old son really wanted a tattoo and his mother and I both gave out consent. However, when I took him to talk to a tattoo artist in Los Angeles, we learned that you must be 18 to get a tattoo in California, regardless of parental.

[00:11:30] Trey Gerrald: So we researched some tattoo places in Las Vegas and found Illuminati. I called to confirm that we could get it done there and learned we'd need IDs with matching last names. I sat an appointment with an individual artist and when we arrived, there was some confusion because that artist wasn't working that day and there was no record of the.

[00:11:56] Chelsey Donn: Um,

[00:11:57] Trey Gerrald: I was kind of bummed initially, but Tommy stepped up and helped us out a lot, totally professional, solid information. And he ended up doing the tattoo himself. I don't have any tattoos, but I'm not the kind of dad who thinks there's a reason for my son not to habitat. It was an area. I have little expertise in and oh, think Tommy made it a solid experience for my son.

[00:12:24] Trey Gerrald: And the tattoo is great. I'd recommend this place to anybody who wants some ink. And this has been denoted twice as useful and twice as cool.

[00:12:39] Chelsey Donn: Cool. Dave. All right. Cool, Dave. So I like this five star review try. It's very interesting to me. I think that like, you know how we have this whole theory about one star reviews where like you have to include something good. And then I believe you, I'm just realizing and hearing this Review! like at first I was like, it doesn't really sound like a five-star review, but then I was like, but I bet he's about to hit me with the compliment.

[00:13:06] Chelsey Donn: It could have turned out and I'm going to be more likely to believe him because he was honest about the fact that they didn't have the appointment. They didn't do whatever, but the tattoo ended up being good, which at the end of the day is the most important thing you want from a tattoo parlor. So like good job, Dave kind of queenly move.

[00:13:26] Trey Gerrald: I know that's one of them. Well, two reasons why I chose this. I love the idea of like a parent. Who's like, yeah, I don't care. Like. But then yes, it's the opposite of what we cover so much on the show. Like, I love that they like highlight that it wasn't completely smooth sailings, but when you add up all the sums of the part, it's a five-star review.

[00:13:49] Chelsey Donn: So we have one spelling error and that's gave out consent. Is that right?

[00:13:54] Trey Gerrald: And then at the end, they also say, and oh, think Tommy made at a solid experience. I think they've been to say.

[00:14:00] Chelsey Donn: Ah, okay. All right. Well, I'm going to take James into consideration with my spelling and grammar critiques from now on. Cause I'm going to think there's a slight possibility that there could have been an issue. So I think that's like that's a pass.

[00:14:14] Trey Gerrald: I have one other question. What is your opinion on lowercase? I lowercase D apostrophe S we learned we'd need IDs with matching lessons.

[00:14:27] Chelsey Donn: Uh, no. I mean, like, I think that, that, like, that's almost like we need it. It's like the, it, the ego and the superego, I think. Yes. In that case should be capital. Okay. All

[00:14:39] Trey Gerrald: but I still got the point.

[00:14:40] Chelsey Donn: Cool day is pretty cool. Pretty cool dad to co-sign on the 16 year old son. I mean, personally, I'm not a tattoo person.

[00:14:49] Chelsey Donn: Might as well got that off right out of the bat. I'll never get one. How about you?

[00:14:53] Trey Gerrald: I don't think I've been with two friends while they've gotten tattoos, but I just don't think I could do it like a, I don't know where I would want one. I don't know what I would want. Also. I don't want to be committed to something the rest of my life also. I don't think I could do the like hours and hours of like the tiny needle. I don't think I could do it. Like, I don't think I have the stamina to like, withstand that. That's really why I don't want One,.

[00:15:18] Chelsey Donn: I agree. I there's so many reasons I just don't want, I cannot commit to something permanently like that. I don't have that kind of personality and also religious reasons, but that's.

[00:15:28] Trey Gerrald: I know, I thought of that too.

[00:15:30] Chelsey Donn: Yeah, but here's the thing I really liked. Dave asses Review! is kind of looking through it, just now looking through my notes to see why I liked it so much.

[00:15:38] Chelsey Donn: And I think it's because there's information and like a built-in referral within this review, the information of. The IDs needing to match the last name. Like maybe if I was parent like Dave and I was a cool Dave, maybe I would want to know, oh, cool. Like this is a place where I can do this for my kid.

[00:16:00] Chelsey Donn: I just need to make sure that I have my ID or like, I don't know, whatever it might be helping. Maybe you have a different last name than your kid, and you'd have to like work a little bit harder or call them and figure out what you do, you know, in that case. So I thought that that was kind of cool of cool, Dave.

[00:16:17] Chelsey Donn: I know that's not his name, but I can't call him anything. And then I also liked that they shouted out Tommy, Tommy obviously sort of saved the day in terms of customer service, then also took care of them and did a good job. So if I go, I know, okay. Tommy, somebody that maybe I'd want to go to, they didn't put a picture, right?

[00:16:40] Trey Gerrald: No image. Cause that's a big question. Am I do I do want to know where the son's tattoo is on the body? I be curious, like, how detailed is it? What is it, how long did it take? But I do want to point out, I actually give a lot of credit to the fact that Dave cool, Dave specified that Tommy was professional with solid information because there's something in my mind, especially about a tattoo parlor off of the strip in Vegas. that like you might be dealing with lots of drunk people or, you know, any breed of people on whatever.

[00:17:18] Trey Gerrald: I'm happy to know that at least when Dave was there, the people working weren't in that mindset, they were being professional, you know? Cause I, I just feel like that could be very risky, especially in

[00:17:30] Chelsey Donn: Oh, yeah, it's interesting because normally, like a photo would just be an addition, but in the case of tattoo parlors specifically, I find it to be a ding. You know, what do they say? A photo is worth a thousand words, especially in this case.

[00:17:50] Trey Gerrald: Uh, grade.

[00:17:50] Chelsey Donn: When I see a establishment and they have five star reviews across the board at that I wanted to say at that magnitude, but that many, you know, five star reviews.

[00:18:03] Chelsey Donn: To the point where they're overall is five, even though they have some one-star reviews, it makes me think maybe this establishment is giving some sort of kickback or some sort of incentive for your five star review, which might explain why. This was a F a five and not a four, because it does feel a little bit Forry it makes me wonder, is there manipulation happening?

[00:18:27] Chelsey Donn: And I feel like there's a very easy way in a tattoo Review! to prove whether or not that's true or not. And that is include a photo,

[00:18:37] Trey Gerrald: Yeah. I mean, I hear that.

[00:18:38] Chelsey Donn: but especially as a tip to like the business owner, because if you are going to have people do it, then at least have them take photos with your branding. So we can see this is what's coming out of the store.

[00:18:48] Trey Gerrald: It is interesting because this is written by the father and not the 16 year old. But yeah, I asked, I also wish that there was.

[00:18:56] Chelsey Donn: Yeah.

[00:18:56] Trey Gerrald: Do we think it's common or fluky? I mean, I wonder how many under 18 year olds like get parental consent. I wonder, I'm curious how often that happens. It doesn't seem like the tattoo parlor was thrown by that at all.

[00:19:08] Trey Gerrald: They talked about on the phone and then Tommy was like, Yeah.

[00:19:11] Trey Gerrald: it's fine. You know?

[00:19:13] Chelsey Donn: Yeah, I'm okay with that. Not necessarily, I guess, being the most common in this sense, because the conclusion was so that the tattoo was good. So even if you weren't in this quite this situation, you would still leave knowing that Tommy is a good tattoo artist.

[00:19:29] Trey Gerrald: Any humor or entertainment here?

[00:19:32] Chelsey Donn: No pretty like dad. Well, Dave keeps it nice and cool. You know, the only thing I want to touch on again quickly, um, with common is just that, you know what we deal with in a lot of situations, just like this is that you have a huge tattoo shop, especially on the Vegas strip. There's no guarantee you're getting Tommy.

[00:19:51] Trey Gerrald: That's true. I think I could crown this.

[00:19:53] Chelsey Donn: I think I can crown cool. Dave. Let's do it.

[00:19:55] Trey Gerrald: All right. So Chelsey and I each have our own set of zero to five crown cards and in an effort to be fair and not influenced by one another, we will simultaneously reveal our rating.

[00:20:06] VOICEOVER: The Queens are Tabulating.

[00:20:14] Chelsey Donn: Interesting. Okay. So Trey is holding up three and a half crowns. I'm holding up four crowns. To be honest, I was teetering between four and four and a half myself. I decided to go with four because I, I, I kind of talked myself out of making this person a Review Queen, but I really liked that reversal of what I enjoy in the one-star review, being reflected here.

[00:20:35] Chelsey Donn: I took away the one crown because. I'm a little bit suspicious because I didn't get that photo. I just wish I would've gotten that photo. And then I think it would have taken me over the top, but other than that good Review! useful information specificity that I enjoyed and the unique spin on a situation that maybe somebody else might find themselves in.

[00:20:57] Chelsey Donn: So for that reason, I went with four crowns, why three and a half.

[00:21:02] Trey Gerrald: Well, I think that you persuaded me cause I didn't. I also in looking, I noticed tons of photos, but I didn't even think about it with this one. And then I did sort of make me think, like, I there's at least half a crown taken off. If you didn't include, like, this is an artwork, so. I kind of want to see it for myself, but I, I actually appreciated the reversal the same as you of how we about the negative experiences, but then ultimately when you were like, this kind of feels like a four-star.

[00:21:30] Trey Gerrald: I agree. I kind of think it feels like a four-star. So I went with three and a half because I think it's, you know, I believe them, I think there is useful information, like you said, but I just went with three and a half because I don't know that I'll remember this and you know, a year,

[00:21:45] Chelsey Donn: Fair enough.

[00:21:46] Trey Gerrald: but good job Cole day.

[00:21:47] Chelsey Donn: Cool. Dave, way to show up to the battle. I got to say you put up a good fight. Cool, Dave.

[00:21:54] Trey Gerrald: And I appreciate the cool Dave is like supportive of whatever their kid wants. Like we should all be so as kids.

[00:22:00] Chelsey Donn: exactly. All right.

[00:22:02] Trey Gerrald: All right.

[00:22:02] Trey Gerrald: So let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we can hear an entirely different side of the story.

[00:22:10] Chelsey Donn: Ho ho ho ha ha.

[00:22:14] Trey Gerrald: tattoo.

[00:22:15] Chelsey Donn: Cute.

[00:22:19] VOICEOVER: Hold your crown. We'll be right back.

[00:22:47] Trey Gerrald: It's game time. And guess what? Listeners, we have a brand new game created entirely by Chelsey Donn, cello. What are we doing? I'm so scared.

[00:23:02] Chelsey Donn: my goodness. I worked so hard on this Queens. So this game is called tattoo. R O.

[00:23:18] Trey Gerrald: Oh,

[00:23:19] Chelsey Donn: So here's the deal. I am going to read something that is either a tattoo or a Review!. Trey's going to have about three seconds to decide, or we're going to have some fun playing tattoo or Review!.

[00:23:39] Trey Gerrald: Here's ed a tattoo Or is it a Review!?

[00:23:44] Chelsey Donn: Or both. I don't know. There's no doubt about that. They're probably both. Um, okay. All right. pickles, no ketchup,

[00:23:57] Trey Gerrald: Review!

[00:24:03] Chelsey Donn: right? I know. Okay. Here we go. My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.

[00:24:13] Trey Gerrald: tattoo.

[00:24:17] Chelsey Donn: I know Review! for quest protein powder on Amazon. It's not going to be easy. I told you I worked hard on this. Okay. Here we go.

[00:24:27] Trey Gerrald: God

[00:24:29] Chelsey Donn: Moose meat.

[00:24:34] Trey Gerrald: tattoo. I go vault.

[00:24:40] Chelsey Donn: That is a review for cryo healthcare, which didn't we do a whole one five on them.

[00:24:47] Trey Gerrald: Whoa,

[00:24:48] Chelsey Donn: Alright. Roses are red. My name's Dave. This poem makes no sense microwave.

[00:25:02] Trey Gerrald: that's a tattoo. Oh my God. I got one. Finally, I got a

[00:25:08] Chelsey Donn: Oh my God. I know. Isn't that such a crazy tattoo. Okay. Here we go. More fun, little playground.

[00:25:18] Trey Gerrald: Review!

[00:25:19] Chelsey Donn: Rovio yeah. Review! that's the maple street playground. staring bitch.

[00:25:35] Trey Gerrald: I hope it's a tattoo. Oh, my God.

[00:25:40] Chelsey Donn: I know aggressive, right?

[00:25:41] Trey Gerrald: It's like those bumper stickers where you're like, okay, calm down.

[00:25:44] Chelsey Donn: Yes. Okay. Naughty or nice.

[00:25:52] Trey Gerrald: This could be either thing. I'm going to say, I'm going to say Review!.

[00:25:57] Chelsey Donn: It is a reveal, but, but it was definitely planted. Cause it could be either one. It was a review for John, but Jews of all things. All right. How many more should we do? I have like a ton.

[00:26:07] Trey Gerrald: It's up to you. Let's do a few more and then we'll do the others in the AFTRA

[00:26:10] Chelsey Donn: Okay. Don't mess with pizza.

[00:26:18] Trey Gerrald: tattoo.

[00:26:20] Chelsey Donn: That's good. You're getting better. There's a learning curve maybe. Okay, bro. I can handle my Saturday live.

[00:26:33] Trey Gerrald: Review!.

[00:26:37] Chelsey Donn: I know. Can you believe it?

[00:26:39] Trey Gerrald: Yes.

[00:26:41] Chelsey Donn: Yes. Just beat the devil out of it.

[00:26:50] Trey Gerrald: tattoo. Okay. Let's do a last one. Do you have a big grand finale?

[00:26:57] Chelsey Donn: This place needed a new manager.

[00:27:05] Trey Gerrald: I'm just going to say tattoo.

[00:27:09] Chelsey Donn: It's a Review!, but I just thought it would be so funny if that was a tattoo.

[00:27:17] Trey Gerrald: What is that for?

[00:27:19] Chelsey Donn: Oh yeah. That's our view for Chucky GS,

[00:27:22] Trey Gerrald: Ah,

[00:27:23] Chelsey Donn: this place data, new manager.

[00:27:25] Trey Gerrald: right. Well, I got six listeners. How many did you get?

[00:27:29] Chelsey Donn: really good.

[00:27:30] Trey Gerrald: Chelsey. Those were so much harder than I thought they would be.

[00:27:34] Chelsey Donn: I'm telling you I didn't go for the low hanging fruit. Like my entire algorithm in Instagram will forever be changed and I don't even want the tattoo. So there you

[00:27:42] Trey Gerrald: Well, that was fun. Thanks Chelsey. Thanks

[00:27:45] Trey Gerrald: me on that fun adventure of tattoo or Review! is it a hot too, or is it a raw view ground? I find out we'll hear more on our after show.

[00:28:00] Chelsey Donn: Oh, that was fun. All right. We're back from that fun brand new never been seen or heard game break. I had

[00:28:10] Trey Gerrald: have one more sound effect.

[00:28:15] VOICEOVER: Review That Review.

[00:28:20] Chelsey Donn: Well, now we are really back. We are back from that brand new game break. And if you just skipped ahead to the second review, you might want to rewind back. it was, uh, it was quite a good time and something totally different.

[00:28:34] Trey Gerrald: Yeah. Good job Chelsey.

[00:28:36] Chelsey Donn: Thank you. Thank you.

[00:28:37] Trey Gerrald: All right, queen. So let's hear the flip side. I'm nervous. Okay. What is this one star you.

[00:28:42] Trey Gerrald: have?

[00:28:44] Chelsey Donn: Okay. Don't be nervous. Try. You're safe. It's okay. All right. So this is a one-star review written by Brooke B. Obviously we know the subject, so let's just get right into it.

[00:28:59] Trey Gerrald: Okay.

[00:29:00] Chelsey Donn: Don't believe every Review! you see?

[00:29:03] Trey Gerrald: Oh, no.

[00:29:04] Chelsey Donn: Me and my boyfriend when to get tattoos last night, because why not? It's Vegas anyways. I just wanted a simple line work tattoo, no shading, no depth.

[00:29:17] Chelsey Donn: Just simply line work. When I showed the artist who did not tell me his name, the tattoo I wanted, he said, and I quote. Oh, sweet. I love line work tattoos like that. Like minimalistic. I then send him the picture of what I wanted, which printed funky because of the lighting. So he traced it out and looked awful on the face.

[00:29:46] Chelsey Donn: When he put that Sensel on my, I made sure to tell him I wanted the eyes like how they are on my reference pictures. He said, don't worry. He can do it. Well, this had to took about an hour, which I thought was crazy. He kept going back for more ink and changing the needles and whatever, and it hurt. I'll be honest.

[00:30:12] Chelsey Donn: I was wondering what the hell he's doing that hurts so bad and feels like he's scribbling all over my arm, but I figured what do I know? He's the professional. Right. No. When I saw my tattoo in the mirror, finally,

[00:30:30] Trey Gerrald: Oh no.

[00:30:31] Chelsey Donn: I almost passed out because I hated it so much.

[00:30:35] Chelsey Donn: Obviously it's permanent.

[00:30:42] Chelsey Donn: I don't know. It's funny. I got, obviously it's permanent and beyond fixing. So

[00:30:48] Trey Gerrald: Ooh.

[00:30:49] Chelsey Donn: I paid. Once I got outside, I was sobbing and how ugly it is how much I hated it immediately. After getting into the Uber, I started researching laser tattoo removal. And once I realized that is so out of my budget, I've decided to get a coverup from a place.

[00:31:12] Chelsey Donn: I know once this awful thing heals, I just don't know where he went wrong. There was such a simple design. I gave him and he just completely chewed it up. Shit it out, then set it on fire. Feel free to laugh at how cute my original design was and how the cherub I ended up with looks. I wanted to cry. Okay. And then.

[00:31:43] Chelsey Donn: She did include two photos, the original photo, which I can share with Patreon, but it's like a very, it's just an outline of a chair up like very, very minimal, like, like she was saying just the lines and it says my drawing that I wanted. So simple just lines, literally, no shading at all. And then a photo of the actual tattoo.

[00:32:11] Chelsey Donn: And then. Uh, it says now, um, now what is this shit? It's fates looks like an old witch and a cherub had a love child and what's with the hair. So I'll show you. I'll tell you yesterday. Okay. Sharing entire screen. Oh, I don't want to. Oh, yeah, that's not too that first. Hold on. So know, I feel bad for Brooke.

[00:32:40] Chelsey Donn: She definitely didn't get what she wanted. Okay. So this is Brooke's original concept. Can you see.

[00:32:45] Trey Gerrald: Uh, it is

[00:32:46] Chelsey Donn: So it's like,

[00:32:47] Trey Gerrald: lines.

[00:32:48] Chelsey Donn: yeah. So it's all singular lines. Like it does look like there's like, yeah, it's an angel cherub. They have like cheek, like it looks like they have a little bit of blush, but I can see how you could easily say, like, don't include the blush.

[00:33:00] Chelsey Donn: I don't want any shading. It's just, it's just line. So it's clear. They gave a, um,

[00:33:06] Trey Gerrald: the eyeball.

[00:33:07] Chelsey Donn: yeah, it's cute. It's cute. And then this is what they ended up with.

[00:33:14] Trey Gerrald: Oh, no, what's up with.

[00:33:23] Trey Gerrald: this arm. Why is the arm red

[00:33:27] Chelsey Donn: Well, maybe blood

[00:33:29] Trey Gerrald: look at the shading in the, hair. the hair is like bangs are black.

[00:33:35] Chelsey Donn: and so bad. You guys it's, it's so bad. Like. I think I was going to saving the description is actually pretty accurate

[00:33:46] Trey Gerrald: uh,

[00:33:47] Chelsey Donn: that it has like, uh, its face looks like an old wedge and a chair I've had a love child and was with that hair. I mean, really like what is with the hair.

[00:33:56] Chelsey Donn: And they will say, it's funny about Brooke is that Brooke didn't need.

[00:34:02] Trey Gerrald: no.

[00:34:02] Chelsey Donn: She used hardly any she's one of the, you know, I feel like it's a Jen. Um, I leaving it up. Cause it's so funny. I know. Um, I know I've, you know, like gen Z, the ones that are younger than us?

[00:34:18] Trey Gerrald: I think so. Yeah.

[00:34:20] Chelsey Donn: You know how they like do this thing where they just write in lowercase letters.

[00:34:25] Chelsey Donn: I don't know if you could see this, but Brooke's entire Review! was written in just lowercase letters though. Like punctuation, commas, you know, all of that was correct.

[00:34:36] Trey Gerrald: me crazy.

[00:34:37] Chelsey Donn: Which, yeah, I know it was, it was a little bit, but it didn't drive me that crazy. But what was, what was interesting is that the word hurt is written

[00:34:46] Trey Gerrald: all

[00:34:47] Chelsey Donn: letters, which really makes it stand out.

[00:34:50] Chelsey Donn: It's almost like there's a poet that does this, right. That just writes in lowercase

[00:34:55] Trey Gerrald: EE Cummings.

[00:34:56] Chelsey Donn: E Cummings. Thank you. It's almost like an EE Cummings poet, like a long E Cummings poem, because, because everything is lowercase. All you see is hurt when you look at it, like really stands out like a word find.

[00:35:10] Trey Gerrald: Okay. Well, okay. So speaking, speaking on the hurt. So I did think it was funny, like Brooke says, why is it hurting? Like, why is there scribbling? Why it feels like someone's scribbling on my arm. Yeah.

[00:35:25] Trey Gerrald: Uh, and then obviously we both died at obviously it's permanent, but this brings up a really interesting question is like, I think the problem was the transference from onto the stensul looked weird and Brooke like, oh, maybe it got messed up a little bit, but, but the guy was like, don't worry.

[00:35:46] Trey Gerrald: Or the girl, I don't know who the tattoo person was. They didn't

[00:35:48] Trey Gerrald: give name, which

[00:35:49] Chelsey Donn: didn't the name.

[00:35:50] Trey Gerrald: but

[00:35:50] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. Well, the person didn't give them the name, which is, I think is very interesting.

[00:35:54] Trey Gerrald: They don't have name tags.

[00:35:56] Chelsey Donn: No. And the person like didn't give them the name, maybe because they didn't want them to like blow them up on Yelp. I don't know.

[00:36:02] Trey Gerrald: Also. I was also curious, like, you can't see how it's going. Like you only get a reveal, like a make-over on a show like you, like in Mrs. Doubtfire,

[00:36:12] Chelsey Donn: I mean,

[00:36:13] Trey Gerrald: and it's like, hello.

[00:36:16] Chelsey Donn: I don't know, cause I've never had a tattoo, but like I've been watching this show called tattoo redo, and it's been fascinating to me that they're hiding it, but that's because it's more of a reveal, but I can see how like, you know, they're really getting in there when they're doing their work. Like if it was on your arm, they're kind of like on top of it with a needle and then they have like this, like they like wipe it clean every once in a while.

[00:36:42] Chelsey Donn: ink smears. I can kind of see how, if somebody was just in there and like Brooke said she was having these thoughts, but she was sort of like, well, they're a professional, right? Like,

[00:36:53] Trey Gerrald: Oh, my God that

[00:36:54] Chelsey Donn: And, and something that they touched on that I think is really important is the first sentence of Brooks Review!

[00:37:00] Chelsey Donn: is don't believe every Review! you see, because I think that this sense of false security of, oh, they're the artists, they got us right. Came from the fact that they do have so many, five star reviews. And if you see so many, five star reviews, you are going to kind of think, you know, maybe it is good. And it sounds like this was Brooke's first tattoo.

[00:37:21] Trey Gerrald: seem that way. Yeah.

[00:37:22] Chelsey Donn: Cause they seem very new to this whole world. Like I know nothing about tattoos, like literally zero. And I know it align work tattoo is that is not aligned work tattoo. Like they clearly had a conversation where it was like wine work. No shading looks like this. So even if something did go wrong with the cental and maybe that should have been the first alarm bell of like, this is not going to go the way that I want it.

[00:37:50] Chelsey Donn: If. It's so basic. It's just like such a basic trace line,

[00:37:56] Trey Gerrald: what I was going say.

[00:37:57] Chelsey Donn: like a hard skill to do. I don't. I think that they're the people that are really good at these thin lines. Tattoos that a lot of celebrities and people like are super popular. Dr. Wu. I mean like the schedule, they are flying all over the world, you know, like whatever, like it's, it's a big deal.

[00:38:13] Chelsey Donn: I'm not demeaning the art of it, but I will say it seems very clear what Brooklyn. There's no color in her image. It's just a black and white image and this final tattoo, it's like the hair's like kind of purple-y and there's like shades of black and

[00:38:34] Trey Gerrald: but the most part to me are the white dots and the.

[00:38:38] Chelsey Donn: Yeah.

[00:38:39] Trey Gerrald: It looks like they like went too dark and then just put in white. Like, I think that is when Brooke references what's with all the changing of the needles. I'm assuming that's

[00:38:49] Chelsey Donn: Oh, you're right. Oh, you're probably, yeah, it was probably the color. You're

[00:38:53] Trey Gerrald: Well, to all of this, I do think this is seeping and value B and it is your point from before. It's like the before and the after, that's huge. And I just feel like I believe it because I can see the image. So I don't even question if it's truthful or shady. I mean, I guess like if I was trying to like cover all corners here, No, because even the after is like so close to the, before that, why would they lie?

[00:39:21] Trey Gerrald: It just seems like yikes. Now, as far as typical, common fluke, I have no idea, but we're in this debate now about like, is it is simpler one line designs harder or is it easier? I don't know, but it doesn't seem like this is like the David or like some, it's like a little angel face with two wings and like, Curly hair.

[00:39:44] Trey Gerrald: Like it doesn't that involved. Like you're

[00:39:47] Chelsey Donn: And if is, if it is my point, is that it's enough of a known this review by the way, was written. Nine months ago. So at this point in, you know, 20, 22 or 2021, when this was written, we know this design like this, this type of style of tattoo is a very popular, it is like the in wave tattoo. So if somebody comes into a tattoo shop that is this renowned and this whatever and everything that they're saying about themselves, you would think at very least.

[00:40:22] Chelsey Donn: They would say, oh, Bobby Bobby is the one that's really good at doing the line

[00:40:27] Trey Gerrald: going to say that too, right? Like that ease that a lot of the artists would have their specialties.

[00:40:32] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. Cause even on the tattoo redo show that I'm watching, like each artist that they show, they all have totally different styles. And that's like, what's cool about these tattoo artists. And I would imagine that that would be what's cool about coming to one of these places is that you have all these people with different.

[00:40:52] Chelsey Donn: Skillsets and different things to offer. And so when you are telling them, this is what I want, you would think that they would be able to sway you towards going to the person that can give you what you want. I mean, this is so not what was requested.

[00:41:07] Trey Gerrald: that's really like I'm sitting here thinking like, obviously I think I was entertained and I was laughing, but I, but like I'm debating on the, the spelling and stuff. Cause that's a little to me, but I'm also thinking I appreciate it because I imagined that I might kind of be like Brook where I would be like talking myself out of a conflict by being like, they know what they're doing.

[00:41:29] Trey Gerrald: It'll be okay. figure it out. They do those. I don't know that like it does kind of make me think this is very queenly right? It would really make me arm

[00:41:39] Chelsey Donn: like do. Yeah. It's like not like, do you specialize in this? Do you have photos that you've done of like this style?

[00:41:47] Trey Gerrald: But then I also do think, like, you know, the, you know, devil's advocate here is like, obviously it is permanent. And so like, you have to like it more than like offending or upsetting the artist. Like it's going to be on you forever. So I don't know. Poor bruh. Fuck.

[00:42:04] Chelsey Donn: I also feel like it's one of those things, like once the train leaves the station, you know what I mean? And also I think the whole idea of the stencil and like you were saying whether or not you can see it before, after as like they're using the central. So the stencil is on top of the skin and they're doing it like over the Stenzel.

[00:42:27] Chelsey Donn: You might not really know exactly what it is until they take the cents off and do the reveal and, and put the oil on or whatever they do before they send you out the door. Like you might not actually see it, which makes me realize, I mean, Dutch palsy obviously, but why. Dr. Wu and celebrity tattoo artists that literally like one of my friend's sisters is a celebrity tattoo artists.

[00:42:52] Chelsey Donn: I think she does all of like Hillary Duff stuff and Hillary flies her out so that she can do her tattoo. And I was like, wow, that's extreme, but no, it's not extreme because it's that important. Like you have to be able to trust the person that's doing it to be able to deliver. 1000%. Like they have to have a home run every time because it's like, yeah, it's on you forever.

[00:43:16] Chelsey Donn: Scary stuff.

[00:43:18] Trey Gerrald: I think I can. think I can crown Brock. How do you feel?

[00:43:22] Chelsey Donn: I think I can Cranbrook. Yeah.

[00:43:24] Trey Gerrald: All right. Let's.

[00:43:25] VOICEOVER: The Queens are Tabulating.

[00:43:32] Chelsey Donn: Oh, wow. Okay. So I went with four and a half crowns tray, one with a full Review Queen, which I got to say I was contemplating. Tell us why you made Brooke B a Review Queen. Nice constellation prize,

[00:43:45] Trey Gerrald: I don't like the use of all lowercase, but I that's my personal taste. And that's my opinion. That's really the negative here. I honestly think like the images really push it over. I really now have a fuller sense of that was really lacking and the five star to give credibility, to bounce it against this.

[00:44:05] Trey Gerrald: One-Star-Zinger. I just feel for Brock and I, I think this is something I will remember. I'm definitely going to remember that, which knows. Um, why did you do four and a half?

[00:44:16] Chelsey Donn: know I was so teetering before between four and a half and five. And I, I did take off the demerit for the all caps, but I feel like I should change it to a Review Queen. Cause I really feel like Brooke is so Review! Queenie here and did everything that she was supposed to do for the assignment. She made me feel.

[00:44:35] Chelsey Donn: Genuinely bad for Like, and then after I felt bad, I looked at the photos and I was like, Ooh girl. Like I, you know, so she was, she was truthful and, and like made me feel something. And then she provided the evidence. So I'm, uh, I'm going to say, let's make Brooke a full Review Queen signed off co-signed by both our QT and QC, because.

[00:45:02] Chelsey Donn: Good job Bruck. You really brought it and I'm sorry. And I hope, I hope it didn't get on that show tattoo, redo,

[00:45:09] Trey Gerrald: I

[00:45:09] Chelsey Donn: and, uh, they can help you out,

[00:45:12] Trey Gerrald: I also just, I want to reiterate that like Brock, I mean, we're only getting Brooks point of view here, but Brooke doesn't slander anyone. Brooke really treats them like the expert and you see the, oh, I'm sorry, Brooke, but congrats. You're a Review Queen for.

[00:45:30] Chelsey Donn: Yes. I hope that that like makes the sting just a little bit less stingy, I hope that takes away some of the

[00:45:38] Trey Gerrald: some of the hurt

[00:45:39] Trey Gerrald: well, all of your listeners, If you have any tattoos, call us, tell us about it. Do you have any horror stories? Do you have any fun stories? Do you know anything about tattoos? Cause we sort of are novices in that world. So if you have anything you want to share about tattoos, call us, leave us a voicemail.

[00:45:53] Trey Gerrald: We'll discuss it on the show. 1 8 5 0 Review! zero.

[00:45:58] Chelsey Donn: If you disagree, please always feel free to let us know. So now we've heard this one star opinion of Illuminati, and we've heard this five star opinion of Illuminati. How do we feel like would, if we were of the tattoo, getting persuasion, would we go to Illuminati? I use the railway,

[00:46:22] Trey Gerrald: Yeah. I mean, I would go, I just would be very particular and I, I will learn from Brock to be like very micromanaging because it's permanent. What would you to,

[00:46:32] Chelsey Donn: I guess my overall feeling on it is that I think that I am right in that. I think there's some insider incentive here for these five-star reviews because we have so many, five star reviews that we're hiding. These ones are reviews and. We have that five serve you, that felt more like a four star review.

[00:46:53] Chelsey Donn: And we're leading on our website with all these five star review things. So something smells fishy and Illuminati town to me. And I do not think that I can trust this Yelp. That is my takeaway.

[00:47:10] Trey Gerrald: um,

[00:47:11] Chelsey Donn: And, and that's, that's the feeling that I'm going away with, that this is not an accurate. Representation now a 3.5 might be, you know, I don't think that a five-star across the board is accurate.

[00:47:24] Trey Gerrald: I get it. Yeah. Oh, here you

[00:47:26] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:47:27] Trey Gerrald: All right. My equation, we have reached the most Regal portion of our show. Who are you inducting today for?

[00:47:37] Chelsey Donn: All right. We know friend of the pod, Emily Crowder, we've already nominated her before, but I love an, because she shall share like, just good content on Instagram. When you, like, when you need a little serotonin boost, you know, go to Emily Crowder's page and she might share something. So one day I was going through Emily's stories and she happens to share Mandy Patinkin Instagram.

[00:48:02] Chelsey Donn: Now, I don't know if do you follow Mandy Patinkin?

[00:48:07] Chelsey Donn: No, you don't. Well, you shed because it is like, so I don't know why it's just so comforting. It's Mandy Patinkin. As we know the actor, the famed actor, Broadway movies, all the things he shares this page with his wife, Katherine grody, and the two of them they've been married for like 45 years. And their son, I guess, is involved with filming them in these videos that are just like slice of life, them at home than being them, them being sorry, but like kind of boomers and not knowing the answers to a lot of questions or one time Catherine read this amazing segment from Anne Lamont.

[00:48:51] Chelsey Donn: That was just like, so poignant and Lamont wrote bird by bird. I just think there's not enough content out there that just makes you feel good. It makes you feel comfortable to watch it. And I highly recommend you get Mandy Patinkin. I'll follow whether or not you're a huge fan of him as an actor or not.

[00:49:08] Chelsey Donn: I just find his page to be so endearing and I have to endorse them. And I will say that beyond the fact that they have these videos that are. Heartwarming and them at home and feel very authentic and real, like a real relationship. They also are pretty outspoken in terms of advocacy for standing up for different charities and awareness.

[00:49:26] Chelsey Donn: Like they're really big with the IRC, um, international rescue committee and they S they curate the page really well. It's a nice mix of like, it's inspiring. It's funny. It's boomers that, you know, don't know millennial things and. It's just a hodgepodge of everything that I like when it comes to a great Instagram page.

[00:49:48] Chelsey Donn: So thanks Emily Crowder, fraternity me on to it and check it out at Mandy Patinkin on Instagram. So I'm going to make you My Royal Highness, Mandy Patinkin and Catherine grody.

[00:50:03] Trey Gerrald: Wow. No, I don't follow Mandy Patinkin, but I obviously know who he is.

[00:50:14] Chelsey Donn: Yes.

[00:50:15] Trey Gerrald: All right. Well, that was fun. Good. I'm going to follow him into Patinkin and then I'll know what you're talking about.

[00:50:19] Chelsey Donn: Yes.

[00:50:20] Trey Gerrald: All right. Well, we did a queen that is another round on the REU, a herder head RQ Ferris wheel of that hurts.

[00:50:31] Chelsey Donn: Good try. Thank you for joining us today. If you like what you heard, please share it with a friend and share it forever.

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[00:52:00] Chelsey Donn: poop, poop, poop, poop. And find out what made Trey say,

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[00:52:20] Trey Gerrald: And remember

[00:52:24] Chelsey Donn: Ignore the haters. You're a queen.

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[00:52:31] Chelsey Donn: Of course.

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Review That Review is an independent podcast. Certain names have been redacted or changed to protect the guilty. Executive produced by Trey Gerrald and Chelsey Donn with editing and sound designed by me with voiceover talents by Eva Kaminsky. Our cover art was designed by LogoVora and our theme song was written by Joe Kinosian and sung by Natalie Weiss.

[00:52:53] Trey Gerrald: Mandy Patinkin and huh.

[00:52:55] Chelsey Donn: I mean, was it a left field? I just listen. Maybe when you start following, you'll understand. Now you're wearing the Wolf shirt. Maybe you're going to start feeling differently. I don't know.

[00:53:06] Trey Gerrald: I thought you were going to do that tattoo thing. So that really threw bait. I was like Mandy

[00:53:11] Chelsey Donn: I was, let's get to the tattoo redo, but they don't know anything about tattoos. So I didn't feel like I should, co-sign a tattoo or redo show that people seem to have problems with the actual word.

[00:53:28] Trey Gerrald: Oh,

[00:53:29] Chelsey Donn: And last minute I just thought, well, I have been spending a lot of time lately on Mandy Instagram. So I might as well give Mandy and, and, uh, his wife credit

[00:53:41] Trey Gerrald: And son,

[00:53:42] Chelsey Donn: and son.

[00:53:43] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. Well, you know, it's a decision that I made and now it's permanent.

[00:53:47] Trey Gerrald: I love that you did. I just literally was like, how is she going to get to this tattoo show by talking about Emily

[00:53:52] Chelsey Donn: Emily Crowder.

[00:53:53] Trey Gerrald: And then it was like Mandy Patinkin. And I was like, what?