Review That Review with Chelsey Donn & Trey Gerrald
Episode 69: "Museum of Sex"
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[00:00:30] Chelsey Donn: Hello
[00:00:32] Trey Gerrald: Well, hello and hello listeners. Welcome to Review That Review the podcast dedicated to reviewing
[00:00:39] Chelsey Donn: reviews. We're just like Siskel & Ebert only instead of reviewing cinematic masterpiece, we rate and review those hilarious scathing and sometimes suspicious online reviews.
[00:00:52] Trey Gerrald: that is Chelsey Donn,
[00:00:53] Chelsey Donn: And that is Trey Gerrald.
[00:00:56] Trey Gerrald: and together we are.
[00:00:58] VoiceOver: The review.
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[00:01:36] Chelsey Donn: Cheerio, Trey. I'm good. I just wanted to be super comfy today. So I figured I'd show I'm showing up to work in a calf tan guys. Is that okay? That's
[00:01:46] Trey Gerrald: of course.
[00:01:47] Chelsey Donn: I just wanted to be comfy. I was feeling like I needed to be extra comfortable today and you look very comfy. Might I say, are you wearing a fetch sweatshirt?
[00:01:58] Trey Gerrald: I am. I'm wearing merch.
[00:02:00] Chelsey Donn: my God, you guys, I have to say beyond the fact that this sweatshirt does our merch and I love it. I'm obsessed with it. I wear it all the time too. It is so comfortable. How comfortable are our Kvetch sweatshirts?
[00:02:13] Trey Gerrald: It really is crazy comfortable. I don't have anything that's as soft as this. And even David was like, what is this? I was like, it's merch. He's like, it's so soft.
[00:02:23] Chelsey Donn: I know my old roommate Gotti, if you're listening, hi Gotti, he's super like high end when it comes to his stuff. He's one of those people that like doesn't have a huge closet, but the few items that he does have are like very high quality. He's like a little bit of a minimalist and he bought one of these Kvetch sweatshirts and he said, the quality is so high.
[00:02:43] Chelsey Donn: He's like, this is like a James Pierce quality and that's coming from a hard judge.
[00:02:49] Trey Gerrald: I don't know the brand, but it really is very soft. It's unlike any other thing I have, but yes, I also, in addition to you felt the need to just luxuriate. I had a friend in town who stayed with us. We had a whole blast about. Town going into Manhattan. We
[00:03:07] Trey Gerrald: did an impromptu college reunion with people that are around.
[00:03:11] Trey Gerrald: And I had a great time. This friend of mine, we went to college together. We also went to middle school and high school. I had a great time with my friend Francis who listens to the pod.
[00:03:22] Chelsey Donn: Oh, hi Francis.
[00:03:23] Trey Gerrald: She was like, I feel like I'm friends with Chelsey. And I was like, you are,
[00:03:27] Chelsey Donn: you are. Hi Francis. I'm so glad we're friends.
[00:03:30] Trey Gerrald: how was your week?
[00:03:32] Chelsey Donn: My week was good, busy, busy, you know, back in the season of, of work and, you know, nose to the grindstone and all that. But, I mean, I have been having something I've wanted to talk to about, and I've like saved it for this moment, cuz it's like super complainy.
[00:03:49] Chelsey Donn: So if it's okay with you.
[00:03:51] Trey Gerrald: Yes. Let's go ahead and.
[00:03:52] VoiceOver: Lodge Complaint.
[00:03:53] Chelsey Donn: So I used to go to the movies all the time, pre COVID, but I have not been going because I'm like trying to be extra cautious, whatever, but I decided the other day, like I wanna go to a movie and I really wanted to see top gun, which I hadn't seen yet, but like it was out it's been out like forever.
[00:04:11] Chelsey Donn: So I found a theater that was playing top gun. It was. My friends and I were excited. Girls night out, everything was seeming good. About five minutes in an entire row of people walk in, you know, the movie's just starting, you're picking up like, where are we? What's the plot? You know, Tom cruise is on screen and.
[00:04:33] Chelsey Donn: The person has like their flashlight on and they're trying to find the seat and then they're talking and they're like grabbing in the bag for the food. And then they're like whispering, but like really loud whispering. And that like at another point, like in the middle of the movie, one of them left and went and got food and then came back and she was like, I used your mom's phone number.
[00:04:58] Chelsey Donn: And I got 10% off, like literally in the middle of the movie.
[00:05:02] Trey Gerrald: no.
[00:05:03] Chelsey Donn: Like hello? Who raised these people? They were probably in their twenties. I was just trying to think, like, did I behave like that? Like, I don't think I was ever that disrespectful
[00:05:17] Trey Gerrald: Hm.
[00:05:18] Chelsey Donn: the sanctity of the movie theater, like.
[00:05:21] Trey Gerrald: Hmm.
[00:05:22] Chelsey Donn: We're here. We're trying to enjoy this moment.
[00:05:25] Chelsey Donn: We're trying to all focus on the same thing. All we do all day long is like, we're on the phone. We're so distracted. We're talking we're whatever. Like this is the time when we get to just turn it all off. And pay attention to this art that I dedicate my life to, that you dedicate your life to. And these people are back there.
[00:05:47] Chelsey Donn: Like, why are you here? You could literally be anywhere. You could be anywhere, but here, but you're here. And you're ruining this experience. And at one point, I mean, I really had to hold together cuz I like, you know, I'm trying not to be the school mom, Trey. I'm trying not to be the old lady. I'm really I'm trying, but I had to shush.
[00:06:09] Chelsey Donn: At one point I had to shush. Okay. It got outta control. And I, I gave a, you know, just like a little, little
[00:06:19] Trey Gerrald: they respond?
[00:06:20] Chelsey Donn: they got quiet and then it was one of those recliner chairs. And so like, I pressed my recliner chair and it made like a fart sound when I pressed the leg when I did it. And so then they were like, sh you. But like, what the heck? Like why, why, why do people do this? Like, it's really graining to me. Is it graining to you? Trey?
[00:06:42] Trey Gerrald: okay. Well, I just have to show you that written on my
[00:06:46] Chelsey Donn: No, stop it. You're lying to
[00:06:48] Trey Gerrald: Literally my Complaint today is opening candy at a Broadway musical
[00:06:54] Chelsey Donn: my God.
[00:06:55] Trey Gerrald: because David and I had the amazing opportunity to see a very good friend of ours. Play the role of Evan Hanson in the musical. Dear Evan Hanson on the great white way.
[00:07:09] Trey Gerrald: We were in the third row with vocalist of our theme song, Natalie Weiss. And I mean, I could talk about that performance as a Royal Highness. I don't know if the listeners have seen dear Evan Hansen, there was a film. It is an outrageous performance that requires so much emotional access on top of outrageous pop high belt, male singing it.
[00:07:35] Trey Gerrald: The, the task is so absurd. I remember when we saw Ben Ette afterwards, we were like, how will they ever cast anyone else to do this?
[00:07:45] Chelsey Donn: I know
[00:07:45] Trey Gerrald: how anyone else can do this.
[00:07:48] Chelsey Donn: I saw Ben in it and I was like, that was the best thing I've ever seen on stage. Like the acting, the like snot,
[00:07:56] Trey Gerrald: So it, without spoilers, there is the whole show is about some deception. And so there is this incredible 11 o'clock number where Evan Hanson is revealing the deception. And this is a number where the character is literally snot crying
[00:08:15] Chelsey Donn: Yes.
[00:08:15] Trey Gerrald: and belting. Simultaneously. And we literally, I, I can't even make this up.
[00:08:23] Trey Gerrald: We're in the third row and there are these two tourists in front of us. And they literally in the vamp silence when the character is like revealing the whole point of the show,
[00:08:38] Chelsey Donn: Oh no.
[00:08:39] Trey Gerrald: you hear this. And I was like, no, Natalie smacked my thigh. So fucking hard. I'm like, yes, bitch. I am hearing it too.
[00:08:54] Chelsey Donn: in the room.
[00:08:56] Trey Gerrald: He starts belting really high and crying. And then we hear this. It was like a three parter. They had to like wiggle the paper candy out of the purse. Then they had to open the paper candy. Then they had to put the candy in their teeth and make crazy clicking sounds. At the point in the show where been plat, one of Tony, it was, I could not believe it Chelsey. It's like also that is a moment where you are waiting the entire show, especially if.
[00:09:28] Trey Gerrald: Have seen that, you know, that this outrageous moment is about to happen. It's like the defining moment it's as if seeing wicked and you're getting to define
[00:09:38] Chelsey Donn: a fine gravity.
[00:09:39] Trey Gerrald: and there's a blackout, right. Or it's like, you're going to see dream girls. And you're about to hear, and I am telling you, and, um, F he loses her voice.
[00:09:48] Trey Gerrald: Like, it's just like we have arrived at the moment that will live in
[00:09:52] Chelsey Donn: at the like pin ultimate moment, the moment the
[00:09:56] Trey Gerrald: And we're seeing our friend in the role on Broadway. So can't!', I, I can't, I don't understand also, like I like similar to your people. It's like, I don't understand the, um, need to do it, especially like at such a pivotal moment.
[00:10:14] Trey Gerrald: Like you're in the show. This is a three hour musical we're at two and a half hours. I don't know. I'm making those numbers up. Like you're in the plot of the story. Now you need a candy also, the minute you hear how loud the candy is, how do you not just stop?
[00:10:28] Chelsey Donn: that's like what I'm wondering, cuz it's like we, we talked about, we had the Complaint one time about like being with the loud friends and like how it's like, oh, like it's uncomfortable cuz you're like, Ooh, you're loud. You're loud. And sometimes I feel like people can be loud without realizing it.
[00:10:42] Chelsey Donn: But with the sounds that were coming at the movies, and it sounds like also in your experience with the like, and the, all the, like grabbing of the candy and undoing the rapper and grabbing the, like, just, it was a symphony. Okay. Of like sounds how are you not hearing that? And, and like having some sort of like, Ooh, like I can hear it.
[00:11:01] Chelsey Donn: Like, if I can hear it, everybody else can hear it too.
[00:11:05] Trey Gerrald: Yeah, I will. I will never be. Confident enough in my life to not be aware of the impact I'm having on people around me, famous drag Queen Bianco Del Rio has like a, a bit, anytime she performs that when people are like talking, she'll look and say this isn't TV bitch. I can hear you. It's
[00:11:26] Chelsey Donn: Yeah.
[00:11:27] Trey Gerrald: loud in a movie theater is so offensive.
[00:11:29] Trey Gerrald: Being loud in a theater is
[00:11:32] Chelsey Donn: SAC,
[00:11:32] Trey Gerrald: so UN it's just the absurd it's absurd. So that's my Complaint
[00:11:36] Chelsey Donn: Oh, my God. That is really weird that we both have the same Complaint.
[00:11:40] Trey Gerrald: so weird. But there are even, I've been to the theater before where the pre-show announcement is like, please take a moment to turn your cell phones off and unwrap any noisy candy people. Like they've even
[00:11:51] Chelsey Donn: They added that to the, to the vernacular. Yeah, it's in
[00:11:55] Trey Gerrald: it's like even more of a double offense. Anyway, that's my Complaint.
[00:11:58] Chelsey Donn: Ugh.
[00:11:59] Trey Gerrald: I'm glad that we both simultaneously agree
[00:12:02] Chelsey Donn: I mean, obviously I hear you. Who are these people or is it just cuz all of us have been inside that now we're like we go outside of the home. We don't realize how we're supposed to act.
[00:12:14] Trey Gerrald: David thought that it was maybe a cough drop, but I don't remember the person coughing in that moment. So I'm like, Regardless,
[00:12:21] Chelsey Donn: a David reply in that.
[00:12:23] Trey Gerrald: until there's applause or wait until there's a swell of music. Don't do it in the literal silence where the person is crying.
[00:12:29] Chelsey Donn: is so sweet to be like, maybe they had a terrible cough
[00:12:33] Trey Gerrald: it was really absurd though. It was like, even with his positivity, it was like, are you kidding me?
[00:12:39] Chelsey Donn: But I think the problem is both in this case and my case, and it seems absurd cuz this person would've been sitting what second row center. So first of all, like you're so close to the stage, which is like, so egregious and terrible.
[00:12:52] Trey Gerrald: Also, we were not center. We were literally like on the side, but we were the seats, like towards the center. So we were on the aisle right there. He was literally in front of,
[00:13:01] Chelsey Donn: That song happens on to the like stage,
[00:13:05] Trey Gerrald: Yeah. He was like five feet away from us. I mean, it was like, it was unnervingly close. I, I was
[00:13:11] Chelsey Donn: you're like that close. So you'd think at that point, like,
[00:13:15] Trey Gerrald: in a conversation with the performer.
[00:13:17] Chelsey Donn: Well, you are, but also you think at that point you'd wanna be there. Like, for me, I was like, with these, like with these kids, I'm like, maybe they don't really wanna be here.
[00:13:26] Chelsey Donn: Maybe they've like, top gun has been out for like a century. Maybe they've seen it already, like, you know,
[00:13:31] Trey Gerrald: Yeah. I think it just comes down to people don't realize how loud they are or they don't realize they just don't have an awareness. That's what I think the kids' problem is. And that's what these tourists, I think they just were like, we're at world boy. They weren't Southern by the way.
[00:13:45] Chelsey Donn: Quick story. And Emily crater will remember this. There was this lovely elderly couple that used to go to all the shows at Strausberg where Emily crater and I studied while we were at NYU and they would sleep. They would fall asleep in the first row and like snore, like loudly, like during the show, but it was okay.
[00:14:04] Chelsey Donn: It was like a Rite of passage. You're like, oh, they're here. Okay. So I will just act over the storing. I will project
[00:14:11] Trey Gerrald: snoring.
[00:14:15] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. We were told before, like Donn, don't take offense to this. This is like nothing to do with your acting. Like these people are, they come to all the shows, but they just, they, they always fall asleep.
[00:14:28] Trey Gerrald: I bet they were like donors too. So they couldn't say
[00:14:30] Chelsey Donn: too. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. I have to talk to Emily about that anyway, back onto the subject of why we do this show and the complaining and the kvetching.
[00:14:40] Chelsey Donn: Should we dive in?
[00:14:41] Trey Gerrald: do it. Let's jump into some online reviews, diva.
[00:14:47] VoiceOver: Review That Review.
[00:14:50] Chelsey Donn: As you know, we are your trustee review Queens. We bring in reviews from the internet that we feel need to be inspected.
[00:14:58] Trey Gerrald: We read you a review, we break it down and then we rate the impact of that review on a scale from zero to five crowns. This is a scientific scale that we call
[00:15:08] VoiceOver: that Kvetch.
[00:15:09] Chelsey Donn: There's a lot of science involved. So with all that science in mind, what is it that we are going to inspect today? Trey?
[00:15:19] Trey Gerrald: Well, I don't know if you recognize, but today is our 69th episode.
[00:15:24] Chelsey Donn: Yeah,
[00:15:24] Trey Gerrald: And what do you think of when you think of the number 69?
[00:15:27] Chelsey Donn: personally, I think of like cancer, cause that's my sign
[00:15:32] Trey Gerrald: Uh,
[00:15:32] Chelsey Donn: and it's like a 69, but I also, the
[00:15:35] Trey Gerrald: Oh, like,
[00:15:36] Chelsey Donn: act.
[00:15:36] Trey Gerrald: wait cancer is a 69.
[00:15:40] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. It's one of 'em
[00:15:42] Trey Gerrald: Wait, cuz Pisces is like two fish that look like a 69.
[00:15:46] Chelsey Donn: Pisces is two fish. Cancer is a 69 as well. I think it's cuz like we're yeah. Cancer 69.
[00:15:54] Trey Gerrald: Geminis duplicitous.
[00:15:55] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. They're like two sides, but I think it's cuz like we can't we're like givers. We can't like receive without giving back. That's how I like to think of
[00:16:02] Trey Gerrald: Uh, okay. So whenever you hear the number 69, you think of your astrology sign.
[00:16:08] Chelsey Donn: Well, I like, I think of that. And then obviously the sexual
[00:16:11] Trey Gerrald: Oh, you do.
[00:16:13] Chelsey Donn: Yes,
[00:16:14] Trey Gerrald: some reason when I hear 69, I think of sex too. So today I have brought in
[00:16:20] Chelsey Donn: could I not.
[00:16:20] Trey Gerrald: two star Yelp review for the museum of sex.
[00:16:27] Chelsey Donn: Woo wanna know something very weird. I actually was like looking this up for reviews this week. So
[00:16:33] Trey Gerrald: Real.
[00:16:33] Chelsey Donn: are weirdly in sync. Yes. I love it. Is it a two star or a two dot
[00:16:38] Trey Gerrald: This is a two star it's on Yelp and this is written by KT F but it's
[00:16:44] Chelsey Donn: K
[00:16:46] Trey Gerrald: KT.
[00:16:46] Chelsey Donn: KTF like KFC, but KTF.
[00:16:49] Trey Gerrald: Just like
[00:16:52] Chelsey Donn: Just like,
[00:16:54] Trey Gerrald: Okay. So here we go. This is, oh, well, I, I think maybe the title goes to show, but if anyone is unaware, there is a museum in the flat iron district of Manhattan. Called the museum of sex. So this is KTS review.
[00:17:09] Chelsey Donn: okay.
[00:17:11] Trey Gerrald: Most sex is the kind of place that you are let down by, but can't really complain about because they have giant inflatable boobs.
[00:17:22] Trey Gerrald: Yes. That kind of place.
[00:17:25] Chelsey Donn: Wait, what? Wait, could you start over? Start over. Thank you. Just start. Okay.
[00:17:33] Trey Gerrald: Mo sex. Is the kind of place that you are let down by, but can't really complain about because they have giant inflatable boobs. Yes. That kind of place. First exhibit gift shop. Most interesting thing here is the herbal aphrodisiacs. Other than that, the usual array of novelty, sex gags com rags high gloss porn magazines, and a few actual sex toys.
[00:18:05] Trey Gerrald: Three out of ten second exhibit Linda Lovelace, basically a biography of her sad life and a giant screen projecting her famous deep throat on loop. Lots of shock value, but no substance two out of ten third exhibit, this was the Funland basically their interactive exhibit featuring all your favorite fun time gags with an erotic twist bouncy house made of boobs, wooden race, penises, GPO Funhouse FLIC rock climbing wall.
[00:18:45] Trey Gerrald: Best part was the bouncy house. Novel, but only about 10 minutes worth. It left a lot to be desired four out of ten fourth, exhibit animals, sexuality. Now this was the most informative and educational part and I appreciated it the most. There were beautiful 3d models of the animals and even a few informative videos.
[00:19:10] Trey Gerrald: Nine out of 10, fifth exhibit sexual quote, unquote oddities. Very few were actual oddities, some sex dolls, some dildos attached to a thing. Some vintage porn comics and a dress made of condoms felt like it was curated by a high schooler. Three out of 10. The admission charge was pretty high for the sort of stuff we saw.
[00:19:36] Trey Gerrald: If I had to describe Mo sex in one word, it would be gimmick. Don't come here. If you are serious about sex ed, or want to see anything you couldn't see on your own was very disappointed that they had nothing on fetishism or anything like that. All caps. Here's how to get the most sex experience for free one.
[00:20:00] Trey Gerrald: Google, how animals have sex? Two Google Linda Lovelace biography three Google condom dress. your local sex toy shop.
[00:20:17] Chelsey Donn: Wow. Okay. All right. KTF so this is two stars, right?
[00:20:25] Trey Gerrald: two. Yeah.
[00:20:26] Chelsey Donn: right. I didn't, I don't think I caught on to the two outta 10 rule until like the second or third one. So I know we did a two outta 10, a four outta 10, a nine out 10 and a three outta 10.
[00:20:38] Trey Gerrald: the gift shop they gave a three out of 10.
[00:20:41] Chelsey Donn: Okay. Am I missing any other ones?
[00:20:43] Trey Gerrald: think that's it.
[00:20:44] Chelsey Donn: I Donn don't think that that averages to choose stars.
[00:20:46] Chelsey Donn: I don't know. Well, maybe we're talking about 10, so I guess we have to divide by two. I don't know. I didn't wanna do math. I don't know. I thought this was interesting. I wanted to say that the idea of breaking it up into categories and doing the like two outta 10 was a sort of queenly move.
[00:21:04] Trey Gerrald: Yes.
[00:21:05] Chelsey Donn: I like that KTF took us through, like the various rooms gave a lot of information about what we can expect in those rooms and then, you know, gave their opinion out of 10 in accordance with, with each category.
[00:21:20] Chelsey Donn: I think that that's good because I mean, I guess animal sexuality, you know, was KTFS thing. So for them, they did have a nine out of 10 experience in at least one of the exhibits. That's where I'm, I'm wondering if this should be a two star, but then it really seems like KTF has a lot of problems with, I had to have you read that twice right in the beginning because I Mo sex.
[00:21:48] Chelsey Donn: Is that what you're saying?
[00:21:49] Trey Gerrald: Yeah. So it's capital M O capital se X, which I've never heard this called Moss
[00:21:59] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. I, I, first I thought I was like very confused. Cause I thought you said most sex is the kind of like, as if like they're Carrie Bradshaw, all of a sudden, and they're like, most sex is about this. Like, and I was like, wait, what am I talking about?
[00:22:13] Trey Gerrald: couldn't help, but wonder
[00:22:14] Chelsey Donn: couldn't help, but wonder is Mo sex.
[00:22:17] Trey Gerrald: proper abbreviation.
[00:22:19] Chelsey Donn: Exactly. So that sort of distracted me, I guess, at the top.
[00:22:23] Chelsey Donn: Maybe if I was reading it, it would've been different. Did you like, did it stop you when you first got to it?
[00:22:29] Trey Gerrald: Yeah, because I don't know that I've ever seen it called Mo sex also. There's no O in the word museum, wouldn't it be Mo
[00:22:36] Chelsey Donn: I guess it's mu they're, they're using the, oh, it's like museum of sex,
[00:22:42] Trey Gerrald: right. Cuz you wouldn't capitalize the O
[00:22:44] Chelsey Donn: right?
[00:22:45] Trey Gerrald: but then wouldn't it be Moss MOS.
[00:22:48] Chelsey Donn: I don't know.
[00:22:50] Trey Gerrald: Also, why are you, why are you shortening museums? Shouldn't you be shortening sex? I don't know. Most sex is very confusing, especially when you're reading it out on a podcast. Cuz it sounds like you're saying more sex.
[00:23:00] Chelsey Donn: yeah. More sex or most I wrote down most sex at first. Like I Donn don't know, but anyway, that was definitely confusing. I Donn know. I think it's super interesting that KTF is such a hater. They described a lot of things that I don't think you'd have in your normal life, like a bouncy house with boobs.
[00:23:21] Chelsey Donn: I think a lot of these museums and I think museum of sex is sort of like an earlier on. They they're sort of like Instagram museums at a certain
[00:23:31] Trey Gerrald: It feels like
[00:23:32] Chelsey Donn: And someone's gonna wanna take a picture of themselves jumping on that boob, bouncy castle.
[00:23:38] Trey Gerrald: Which they don't include that in the list at the end. Cuz you can't get the experience
[00:23:43] Chelsey Donn: exactly. And then also I just thought, is that a good point? Because it's like, yeah, well, you don't have to go to the, you know, the met either. You could Google, you know what I mean? Like you could really say that about anything like Google it, like, read about the artist, read about the David instead of seeing the David.
[00:24:02] Chelsey Donn: And I don't know, I think that the idea. A museum is a collection of items. So like, yeah, you could Google this and Google that and go to the sex shop and do, but the idea behind this museum is that it's a, everything is here and maybe I just would've respected the review. I think more if KTF had spent more time talking about they don't address kink, they're not doing like they're not giving me X, Y, Z, that I really wanted.
[00:24:31] Chelsey Donn: If more of the focus had been. I think I could have been with them, but because, you know, they're sort of just knocking, it almost feels like the entire idea of a museum. And like, I, I just, I never think you're gonna get the same experience from Googling as you are from being there.
[00:24:51] Trey Gerrald: Yeah, it is interesting that they left the experience feeling like it was such a waste of time that they could have just Googled it. There's also like this was a very common theme in the review. As I was purveying for today, many people really were disappointed in the actual education from the museum and were caught off guard that it's very like kitchy and touristy and kind of like jokey.
[00:25:19] Trey Gerrald: And so I was really sort of like, Doing an evaluation on myself of like, what would I actually be expecting going to the museum of sex? All of the branding is very bright, very colorful. Like I'm trying to weigh like separating the disappointment of having gone, but actually, what is my expectation going in?
[00:25:38] Chelsey Donn: right, right, right. Yeah. I mean, I think that if a lot of other reviewers are saying that, and KTF said that it does seem like they're missing. Something that the people want. Like, I think a lot of people are gonna come because it's like a bachelorette, you know what I mean? Or like, there are gonna be a lot, a lot of people that are just gonna go because it's called the museum of sex or whatever.
[00:26:02] Chelsey Donn: Like there's gonna be all kinds of people that are more casual, but that being said, If you are gonna call yourself museum of sex, then I think you should at very least have like kink rooms. That's like you Donn don't have to go into that kink room, but you can, or even if it was like an upsell, which I'm sure people would complain about, but like, you can see the blah, blah, blah exhibit, if you're into that.
[00:26:24] Chelsey Donn: And then if you're like more vanilla or more like whatever, you can just go through the regular. General area, because it seems like that's the main reason that KTF has an issue with this. It's like, I'm a master of sex. That's why I came here. I didn't learn anything new. I saw a bunch of like, what did she, what did she say?
[00:26:44] Trey Gerrald: Right. It's the place that you're let down by, but you can't really complain because they have giant inflatable boobs.
[00:26:50] Chelsey Donn: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't really know exactly what we're getting at, but I yeah, go.
[00:26:56] Trey Gerrald: well, to the, all of this point, do you think that the information that KT is putting in this review is valuable? Uh,
[00:27:01] Chelsey Donn: I think it is, but like maybe I, I wonder if the intention was there. Right? Cause like, I think that the, they gave the whole bouncy house rock climbing wall. They gave that four outta 10, but like.
[00:27:14] Chelsey Donn: I thought that was really cool. Like, I wouldn't have thought that the museum of sex would've had that, honestly, I would've thought it would be like more boring, like walls of penises or something like that. I don't know. So like I thought it would be like, sort of this, you know, walk through museum and look at this like erotica from BC.
[00:27:33] Chelsey Donn: I Donn know, but like just, I thought it
[00:27:36] Trey Gerrald: more buttoned up
[00:27:37] Chelsey Donn: a little more, yeah, a little more like. We're not really giving you anything other than like the imagery on the wall or the branding or whatever it is like, but the fact that they have this room makes me feel much more like it's an experience. And I didn't know that that was a thing until we read KTFS review.
[00:27:57] Chelsey Donn: So I do think there's like information to be gained here.
[00:28:01] Trey Gerrald: Yeah. So they do call that area Funland, which is part of their publicity too. It's sort of like Funland at the museum of sex, which is really full of all of the sort of Instagramy sort of social media stuff. And they are like photo ops as well. But you, you just made me think of something interesting. The whole thing is like this isn't worth it.
[00:28:24] Trey Gerrald: The only good part. Is Funland, but they're giving that four out of 10, which is interesting.
[00:28:31] Chelsey Donn: but beyond them, giving it up four to 10 then, yeah. I don't know. Then they're giving animal sexuality nine out of 10. Why? Because there was like the most information.
[00:28:41] Trey Gerrald: It seems that that's what they're getting at. There was a more, the most amount of substantive information to learn was in the animal sexuality exhibit. Which I have also garnered is no longer there. They do like change some of the exhibits out. I believe the Linda Lovelace exhibit is no longer there.
[00:28:57] Trey Gerrald: It's something new.
[00:28:57] Chelsey Donn: Yeah. I just thought it was like funny to be like Google, the dress made of condoms. It's like, again, like, yeah, you could Google it or you could see it. I kind of wanna see it. Like how did you make a dress full of, I don't know.
[00:29:10] Trey Gerrald: And I also like their fourth point of how to get the experience for free is go visit your local sex toy shop. It feels to me like there's something a little less dark or ski V or gross about a sex shop, cuz you're going to like the museum. Like,
[00:29:27] Chelsey Donn: I do think that I do feel like it's not, the review is not addressing all audiences. Cuz I think like there's gonna be all kinds of people that are here. Like some people, like I said, bachelorette, or they're like more conservative and they're just going. I don't know. I think we can't, we can't conflate the two things.
[00:29:46] Chelsey Donn: I don't think like a sex shop and a sex museum. Shouldn't be the same thing in my mind.
[00:29:52] Trey Gerrald: And then as far as spelling and grammar, it's pretty great. I mean, there aren't issues other than Mosac. I did think that there was like a literary convention where if you use an abbreviation, you have to first say the full word. To like set up the reader that this is what you're doing, but if you're at the museum of sex, one can gather what most sex is,
[00:30:12] Chelsey Donn: Right. I, I caught on, yeah, I caught on eventually, but I was like,
[00:30:16] Trey Gerrald: Right. It's literally the first word. And I don't know that I've ever seen that before, so, Hmm. I, I mean, I do think that KT is being truthful. I think this is truly their experience.
[00:30:27] Chelsey Donn: for sure.
[00:30:28] Trey Gerrald: Is this gonna be common? I mean, I can sort of say from looking at a lot of reviews and maybe you as well this week, ironically, but like, it does seem like a common experience for people to be a little let down by the value at the cost.
[00:30:44] Chelsey Donn: You think that's a common experience? I mean, I wasn't really getting into the nitty gritty of the reviews. I just literally like had it on a list. Um, and go and put it into TripAdvisor, which honestly Tripad advisor is kind of a different audience. So it's sort of interesting cuz we were looking two different sources.
[00:31:01] Chelsey Donn: I don't know that everybody on TripAdvisor felt that way, but I think a lot of people are disappointed with this kind of thing.
[00:31:07] Trey Gerrald: And they say that at the bottom line, is that it's gimmicky? Well, it is. I mean, it's, you're going to the museum of sex. It's gonna be gimmicky. I imagine.
[00:31:15] Chelsey Donn: that is. It it's like, I, I believe them that it is gimmicky. I'm sure it is. But if I think museum of sex, do I think gimmicky? Yes, I do.
[00:31:28] Trey Gerrald: Right.
[00:31:29] Chelsey Donn: So then does it bother me? You know, I Donn. Well, this
[00:31:32] Trey Gerrald: occurred to me in this conversation. Like even it being called museum of sex, not museum of human sexuality, like it de it's not a clinical sounding term. It's sort of a colloquial term. I mean, sex is the word, but like it already in the whole branding, it feels. Instagramable. So, but does that mean you can't have a lot of knowledge there?
[00:31:57] Trey Gerrald: No.
[00:31:57] Chelsey Donn: like a good cautionary warning for people going to the museum is like, if you, you know, are somebody that's really looking to get new information and, and, you know, really get some sort of educational component out of your trip to this museum, then you're probably not gonna get it.
[00:32:16] Trey Gerrald: Right. I mean, the humor, not really a lot of humor necessarily.
[00:32:20] Chelsey Donn: Yeah.
[00:32:21] Trey Gerrald: I was entertained cuz they're literally walking me through each exhibit. So I found that to be pretty valuable. And then I don't know, I feel like the impact here is like, this is a two star and I feel like, I mean, they're literally telling us how to get the experience without going so,
[00:32:39] Chelsey Donn: I didn't like that. I thought that was a little shady
[00:32:42] Trey Gerrald: a little shady, right?
[00:32:43] Trey Gerrald: Like, yeah.
[00:32:45] Chelsey Donn: first I thought I was like, oh, are they gonna like tell us to go to like Groupon or something like that? Like I, you know, I thought maybe they were gonna give like a tip for how to get, and then they were like, Google it, like, I don't know.
[00:32:56] Chelsey Donn: It was shady.
[00:32:58] Trey Gerrald: Yeah, it's a little condescending to be like, just Google it.
[00:33:00] Chelsey Donn: Yeah,
[00:33:02] Trey Gerrald: I Donn know. All right. I think I could crown KT. How do you.
[00:33:05] Chelsey Donn: I think I can definitely crown KTF.
[00:33:08] Trey Gerrald: All right, let's do it. So Chelsey and I each have our own set of zero to five crown cards in an effort to be fair and not influenced by one another. We will simultaneously reveal our rating.
[00:33:21] VoiceOver: The Queens are Tabulating. So to school,
[00:33:29] Chelsey Donn: Okay, I'm holding up three crowns. Trey is holding up four crowns. I went with three crowns because I Donn don't know that KCF really represents the entire mass of people that are gonna be going to the museum of sex or Mo sex. I did take a point off for the most sex thing, being a little bit confusing.
[00:33:50] Chelsey Donn: And also I just. They were a little shady there in the end. So that's where my crowns were coming off. But I did like the fact that they did this two outta 10, five outta 10 rubric, I thought that was sort of queenly and well organized. And I did gather a lot of information from the review. So for me, that's where the three crowns are coming from.
[00:34:11] Chelsey Donn: But you went with four crowns. Why to do that for KTF.
[00:34:16] Trey Gerrald: So I just Googled Mo sex. And literally the first thing that comes up is the museum of sex. So maybe, yeah, it says like the museum of
[00:34:25] Trey Gerrald: sex.
[00:34:26] Chelsey Donn: be people like us that are looking,
[00:34:28] Trey Gerrald: But it says.
[00:34:29] Chelsey Donn: if they like wrote museum of sex, parentheses, most sex. And then like, then we would've known.
[00:34:34] Trey Gerrald: right. It says it's also known as Mo act, but here we are two of us and we've never heard of it, but I said four crowns, cuz ultimately I do think there is a lot of information in this review and I thought it was like funny. The concept of like, you can't really complain because of the inflatable boobs.
[00:34:53] Trey Gerrald: So I'll give it to stars. But I think like my opinion of what the museum of sex is, has probably been impacted by KTF here, that it is sort of like, these are the things that are on each exhibit, which is great. And ultimately like, you know, it's for the experience, it's not for like actual knowledge cuz you could just Google it, which I's kind of the culture we live in.
[00:35:16] Trey Gerrald: I mean, we do have these little computers in our hands, you know, so I Donn know.
[00:35:21] Chelsey Donn: if you can't spare an afternoon to not look at your phone.
[00:35:25] Trey Gerrald: Exactly.
[00:35:26] Chelsey Donn: then maybe you don't belong in the museum.
[00:35:29] Trey Gerrald: But I did think these reviews would be much more ripe with like immature humor or just any sort of like comedy. And a lot of them really felt very straightforward to me, which I don't know what that means or says, but it was interesting. So that's why I said four.
[00:35:46] Chelsey Donn: I think it was a good review. All in all. I really do. I think it was solid. And even where I disagreed, I, I think ATF did a good job.
[00:35:55] Trey Gerrald: Good J Katie.
[00:35:56] Chelsey Donn: J KTF
[00:35:58] Trey Gerrald: Well, alright, so that was, um, our celebration of our 69th episode. So ChelseyBD with that in mind.
[00:36:04] Chelsey Donn: I agree.
[00:36:05] Trey Gerrald: we have reached our most Regal portion. So who are you gonna induct today for?
[00:36:13] VoiceOver: My Royal line.
[00:36:14] Chelsey Donn: This feels like a little strange. I didn't realize this was the 69th episode, like in my head. So like, let's not, let's try not to color, um, my induction with that, but I did feel like I had to, I, I it's been on my list forever. I've been wanting to do this and I just haven't done it yet. And I have to induct David Perlman.
[00:36:38] Trey Gerrald: oh,
[00:36:40] Chelsey Donn: our Royal Highness this week, we did a second photo shoot with David when I was home a few months ago. I don't know if you guys have been seeing some of the photos we've been rolling out from that, but like they're stunning. They're amazing. David's incredible. I just was doing a little slew thing before I was hopping on David on Google has 21 reviews from Google and they're all five.
[00:37:07] Chelsey Donn: Every single one of these reviews is five stars. And it's because David is such an amazing, incredible photographer that I feel so lucky that we got to work with him. You know, Trey is married to him. So I guess, you know, I'll say he co-signs and agrees with everything that I'm saying, but I know that David is so supportive of the podcast beyond just like being an amazing photographer and listens to the show and the after show and everything.
[00:37:32] Chelsey Donn: And I just love him so much. And I'm so grateful for him. He's I don't know. Super important, please like Google him. If you have a wedding coming up, I think you should try to get in with him if you can. His schedule is very packed, but look at his images, follow him on Instagram at David Proman photography, follow him, look at his just Ugh, stunning images.
[00:37:54] Chelsey Donn: He's a stunning person and I love and adore him. And I'm so grateful that I get to. Kind of like be pseudo, married, like a pseudo part of the, the, the Queen dumb, um, with Trey and David. So David Perlman, it is our extreme honor to induct you as our Royal Highness. Love you.
[00:38:16] Trey Gerrald: That's so nice. David Perlman. We actually, um, we have a never before released episode that we did with David Perlman that maybe we might have
[00:38:27] Chelsey Donn: we've inducted him officially.
[00:38:29] Trey Gerrald: maybe we'll have to pull that out one
[00:38:31] Chelsey Donn: I think we should
[00:38:32] Trey Gerrald: but yes, obviously I concur. I married the person for, I was gonna say FSE.
[00:38:37] Chelsey Donn: for freaks sake
[00:38:38] Trey Gerrald: please go and check out David Perlman photography.
[00:38:42] Chelsey Donn: look at our photos, they are stunning. We're gonna start putting them, you know, rolling them out. So you guys can see these unbelievable images that David has taken of us as well.
[00:38:52] Trey Gerrald: I love that.
[00:38:53] Chelsey Donn: Yeah.
[00:38:55] Trey Gerrald: David. He's gonna be so excited.
[00:38:57] Chelsey Donn: I'm so excited for you
[00:38:59] Trey Gerrald: Well, my Queen, that's it. We did it. That is another round on the R U a RQ Mo sex Ferris wheel of David Perlman life 69
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[00:40:41] Trey Gerrald: Uh, oh.
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[00:41:04] Trey Gerrald: Oh, my God, you weren't even finished.
[00:41:07] Chelsey Donn: it's a lot. Okay. I mean, get ready. So to find out what made Trey say
[00:41:14] Trey Gerrald: Sure, but I could be like KT and be like, you could just Google thunder, enlightening, and to find out what made Chelsey say,
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[00:41:42] Trey Gerrald: non-specific Queen bye
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[00:42:09] Trey Gerrald: Do you wish that you had an Instagram post jumping on inflatable boobs?
[00:42:13] Chelsey Donn: I do I do.